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1864 Two Cent Piece With A Folded Over Rim Fin?

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This 1864 came in just today and it appears that it has a folded over Rim Fin most of the way around it on the obverse.
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 Posted 04/24/2023  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, kinda looks that way.
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Agree. Seen similar.
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I call these crumbled rims they are akin to a Cud. This particular example is a Leone 5F variety. Later die stages of this variety all have a quite large rim Cud appearing at 10K. It is also a re-punched date best seen within the 64 digits.

See this reference to the 5F variety in a late stage showing.

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A reverse of the same variety that shows the various die cracks really nicely, also note the large rim Cud on this example, not on Dearborn's example - yet:
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An early Die State similar to Dearborn's example:
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A quite late die state to show the Cud forming at 10K position, mine has a filled die (probably grease) obliterating the date and other design elements on both sides (only obverse shown here):
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A really rare example of this die pairing, can have a misaligned clash of denticles on the reverse, I have not found an example in the wild yet and the ones I have run across are expensive so I've not got one - yet...
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You know me always one to chime in on a neat Two Cent variety, hope you all enjoy the photos, these are from my photos I've been re-shooting for use in my Two Cent Variety Database I'm building, only these are 1/3 smaller for use on this forum.
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On Large Cents, that is the rim breaking apart, and cudding... the 1837 N-17 is famous for it
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