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1968 S Jefferson Nickel Possible Proof

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Hello Coin Community, I have a dilemma I need help with! I have a 1968 S Nickel which appears to have a better strike than the normal business strike. What I am trying to figure out is the better-looking one a proof? It shows wear on the reverse high points, steps, front of Monticello, which is circulation damage! I know if it is a proof it came from a mint set which was broken apart. I found this coin while searching for RPM's of my nickels (I have about 60 older nickels) and I had two the same year (1968) with the S mint-mark. One was far superior to the other one and after close inspection I read about the year which indicated the mint made proofs for this year (a little over 3 million of 100 million). So I took pictures of both coins with the one on the right side being hopefully a proof! Take a look, and let me know your thoughts. I don't think the RPM is on this coin, but I am hoping for the proof. Regards all.

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The one on the right is not struck up well enough to be a proof, especially on the reverse.
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with coin - I'd say that both of these are not proofs.
Here are the mintage figures for business and proof strikes:
1968-S Business - 100,396,004, Proof - 3,041,506
This is a proof nickel (note how well the devices are struck up - especially the rim is thicker and flatter.)
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the fields are not mirrorred enough for it to be a proof
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Agree with all above.
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Ok so I can't get this coin off my mind! I still think it is A impaired proof. I looked through all of my nickels and none have the look of this coin! But I dont have the chops to deny your points so here is a pic of this coin for your inspection! This coin was in general population because it had Bag Hits on Jefferson. The fields look clean and the script seem to jump off the coin! Anyway that's' my arguement, so it had a terrific business strike, I guess. Regards!
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proof nickels have full steps, your coin does not have even one step
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Nick10 the steps were worn off by circulation. It's the high point for nickels. Anyway it doesn't matter Just a good strike. Regards.
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worn off? just the steps, while the rest of the coin experienced very little wear? must be some good stuff you're smoking
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Ordinary nickel that is not a proof .
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Never did smoke, gives me paranoia! It's this darn nickel thats giving me gas. Thank you all for your replies and patience! Regards.
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Can't quite figure out why the hi spots on both sides are flattened out, and the rest of the coin looks so good? The only thing I can think of it's been buffed out on a wheel with buffing compound.
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if the dies do not fully press into the planchet, the highest parts of the devices do not get impressed into the planchet, leaving flat spots, you'll see it a fair amount on 1960s nickels and it may have been intentional on the part of the mint to reduce die wear
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I think this it is a coin struck with an refurbish proof Die. This was use almost till 1976
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Again I thank all who replied to this nickel. I stuck it in a flip. Regards and have a nice day.
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The double strike of the proofs creates stronger design on the coins. When you see them side by side, then you will see the differences. ours is a normal nickel, not a proof nickel. On the proof nickel, do you notice on the fields a hint of distortion? That is from Machine Doubling on the first strike of the proof nickel, and the second strike flattens the Machine Doubling. This happens often on proof coins. Even on doubled dies. When you look at the attributed dies on the site, on the proof coins, you can see this can be seen and other examples without the Machine Doubling will be normal. Just an event that shows on the first strike coins with Machine Doubling, and the flattening of the MD that was altered on the first strike.
Obverse Machine Doubling seen on the fields of this DDO:
http://www.varietyvista.com/04b%20J...8SDDO005.htm
Reverse Machine Doubling seen on the fields:
http://www.varietyvista.com/04b%20J...8SDDR002.htm
Note on these listings the distorted fields next to the devices. That is Machine Doubling that happened on the first strike and then flattened on the second strike. This is not part of the doubled die, but part of the striking issue on these coins. Other coins without Machine Doubling will not show this at all.

CoopHome: What causes the fields to show distortion on some of the proof coins? Machine Doubling on the first strike. the Machine Doubling was present and the second strike flattened the affected devices. (or in some cases, enhances even more on some strikes. most are normal, but the MD is seen on the first or second strikes on proof coins on the fields.
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