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I've spent HOURS looking at the coins in the proof set with a 30X and 60X loupe. Seems hard to believe that only the nickel doesn't appear to have any errors. If anyone has experience with 1970 S nickel errors I can check for, please let me know.

I'm currently going through my late father in laws mostly American collection. I've been researching coins for about 3 months now via the Internet and books so somewhat new to this.

Any tips, comments or advice on value as a set, best way to sell or even grade the set, auction it, sell on ebay, etc. are appreciated. I will write separate posts for each coin starting with the penny, below:


1970 S Proof Cent Errors (Large Date):

DDO in LIBERTY, IN GOD WE TRUST, the most particular doubling in TRUST, 1970 date, S mint mark. Lincoln's ear lobe is also double died. Possible occluded gas in the obverse bottom 1/3.

DDR in PLURIBUS

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I'm not sold on the claim of errors on 4 of 5 coins in a proof set. As for DDO / DDR on the Lincoln Memorial cent, perhaps reflection / refraction of light through the case is giving the appearance of doubling, especially if you are using 30X and 60X loupes.
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 Posted 06/17/2023  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You'll find something on the nickel too if you use a powerful enough magnifier.
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I'm not sure if this was a set that was assembled at the mint, If it were we would not be seeing any contact hits on the fields of both sides on this cent. The main feature of this coin is the massive 'milking' of the surfaces due to poor storage. (moisture - Humidity). That doubling you see is (as stated above) is more likely than not to be a reflection from the lens in which the coins are set in.
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I forgot to mention how beat up the Lincoln Cent is for being a proof coin in a sealed set.
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to the CCF and All I'm seeing is a regular 1970 proof set with some milk staining. First thing to know is what to look for as far as "errors". The odds of having 4 out of 5 proof coins in a set that are real errors, is astronomical. This site is great for information. Use the search tab, there's a lot of experience here.
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I'll take better pictures. I had to resize them and the quality is not good, nor was it stellar before. The are a lot of scratches on the case. I received this as a birthday gift 2 to 3 decades ago, not from the collection I'm studying. It's my year of birth. I can't imagine someone bothering to assemble these coins for fun. The penny has the most obvious errors and I'll present that. Otherwise they need to be taken to a dealer or sent for grading. Any advice on GRADING? Thanks.
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So far looks pretty normal.



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Any advice on GRADING?

Yes, don't waste your money sending these coins to a TPG.
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Your coin will not pass PR 65
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to the CCF

I see an everyday normal proof set.
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Hi Guys. I'm back.

After further research on the individual coins in this set, ALL 5 have errors.

But wait...please don't say that's impossible ...or if I look hard enough with a strong enough magnifier that I'll find errors on them all. I had to get a new camera to import pictures. It is EXTREMELY difficult to take pictures of the coins because the case is very reflective. I have new pictures to upload. Each coin has unique and undeniable errors. Some are subtle, others obvious but are there on all five coins.


Here's a recap since the last posts in this thread:

The penny is doubled in multiple places, could be a large date over a small, or a small 7, which is an error listed in the US Error Coin Guide-2023 with a picture in chapter 9. The upper half has a rimmed There is no doubt about these errors, it is the most flawed coin besides the half dollar.

The nickel has has an S over S RPM, filled or doubled mint mark. I researched nickel errors and have a link to a video but am unsure if I can post it here due to the rules of the site.It is from JBCOINSINC and here is the title to search on Youtube:
S over S mint mark RPM Nickels worth money you should know about! 1970 S nickel to look for!
The nickel also has 5 full steps. Not that this is an error but research says it is rarer to find a good mint of the 1970 nickel containing all 5 steps and that coins from 1970 were not very well minted in general.

The dime is a high relief flame from 1968 reverse and not fully banded. The mintmark also RPR, doubled or filled.

The quarter has 3 reed Cuds and possibly not the right amount of reeds. I haven't researched the correct amount yet but they are ill spaced and not uniform in some areas. I found that error by mistake quite frankly. Turned on the microscope and it was focused on the reeding and viola-- there are the Cuds. Washington has a doubled ear. The S is filled or has doubling, especially in the bottom portion.

The half dollar. It's a horrible punch. In my opinion, it should not be in a mint set case with the weak punch. Obverse lamination error and retained laminated errors are along the rim. I do not believe it is milking. There are bits of retained metal lamination, in addition to non-retained lamination.

I do not think the case has ever been opened or it should be obvious, unless there is a way to open this type and genre of mint cases and it wouldn't be noticeable once closed back up. Please advise if anyone knows the answer to this case opening/closing question. Would it have to be glued back together or does it simply snap back together if it was opened? The case does not look tampered with whatsoever, not any foreign glue product oozing from its seams. If these coins were handled, is there a way to test for oil from fingers, etc?

Thanks for more input. I've uploaded new pics and hope they attached. I will add more picture examples of what I've written above to follow if the new ones didn't attach to this thread. I might need to make a new post

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Corrections to my last post. The penny has an obverse finned upper rim. The dime has a RPM, not RPR.
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Forgot to add the half dollar appears to have a broken hub R and U in TRUST. Also, I think the 7 and 0 are doubled. There is a notch in the corner of the 7. I have around 50 Kennedy Halfs and looking at some from 1971 there are no 7's or 0's that look like these.

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Penny error pictures
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1970 S Dime pictures, RPM mint mark, High Relief 1968 torch, non-banded
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