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English Coin? Orb On One Side And Lion On T'other | Jeton

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 Posted 03/24/2009  12:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add middenmess to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hammered? coin with diameter of 25mm--English?
The lion is much better defined in 'real life'


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 Posted 03/24/2009  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have this wonderful quote from a learned fellow


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OK, what you have here is a "jeton", not a coin. I found it by Googling the only part of the inscription that I thought could read for sure: REICH BLIBT.

This is a specimen of the Nuremberg series of jetons, from the 1500's. Jetons were used on counting boards, kind of an economic abacus needed to calculate financial transactions using the bizarre and complicated medieval European monetary systems. Later they were sold and used as card counters and gaming tokens. The inscriptions on your specimen are supposed to read:

Obverse: three crowns and three fleur-de-lys in a circle, HANNS KRAVWINKEL. Hans Krauwinkel II was a master of the family jeton factory in Nuremberg from 1586 to 1635.

Reverse: Imperial Orb in trilobe shape, GOTES REICH BLIBT EWICK, which is mediaeval German for "God's Kingdom is Eternal".

This particular type is apparently one of the more common ones, but I don't have a proper catalogue for jetons to give you a value.

Reference: This Website by Jim Furner.


Can't read all the script but it looks exactly like one that Sap ID'd for me awhile back
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Thanks GraceOutcast--over an hour on google and nothing and then one minute on here for a pos.ID!
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It is indeed a jeton. I can't read the legends clearly, but the lion side seems to be the word "MENBOVD" three times, and the legend on the other side "OBVEN" four times. I don't know what it means, but the lettering appears to be late 1400's / early 1500's in style.
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