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1897 IHC - What Is On This Coin? What Causes This?

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 Posted 06/20/2023  07:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Not my coin, but I see coins like this sometimes on ebay. Looks like it's got used motor oil on it. What is this stuff? Will acetone remove it?
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 Posted 06/20/2023  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutch-Tigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Greetings ,there used to be a product on the market I even used once in the past as a young coin kid, it was a type of oil you would use a Q-tip to dab and roll on to lift the grunge off of pennies. Not sure if this is something like that or if the product is even on the market anymore.
Me just use 100% Acetone now that I`m all growed up.

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100% pure acetone is fine. As to what's on it, maybe dried cola or shellac? In the old days they used to coat coins in shellac.
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it certainly could be from an old coating of varnish as John stated. verdicare or acetone may remove it or most of it but you are never sure whats under it. the coin probably would pull a 94 code at PCGS for altered surfaces
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I'm just using this as a general example, but seeing coins like this is not uncommon and I've wondered what this could be.
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Acetone is certainly the place to start.
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Varnish was used back in the day. You also may run across coins 'treated' with olive oil and/or mineral oil.

Acetone is your friend--when used properly. Good luck!
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Thanks, been wondering about this for a while and have passed on some otherwise fairly nice coins because of this. Of course I realize that each coin needs to be evaluated on its own merits, but this gives me something to put into my evaluation.
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Shellac is one example of a resin that is solid at room temperature and becomes more plastic (softer) when heated or when under pressure. It is one type of lacquer, along with varnish, etc. The shellacs and lacquers used prior to the early 1920s were natural products made from bugs, tree sap, urushiol, etc.

One way to test for shellac or other older thermoplastic lacquers/resins is to provide a little bit of indirect heating (but never high temperatures or direct flame due to inflammability concerns) to a suspect area of the coin. If it softens up, then you can gently remove larger deposits using a rose-thorn or soft toothpick. Usually 120-150 degrees will do the trick. Watchmakers and watch repairers often use a fine tip low heat soldering iron or a "setting stick" (heated metal needle with a heat-resistant handle) for this purpose when setting jewels.

You can also use just acetone, of course, which is safer and will not damage the metal, and then work the affected areas in the same way. It will require more of a time investment to remove some of the tougher residue. This will not work on some types of varnish, acrylics, or modern synthetics, in which case you may try turpentine, methyl alcohol, and ammonia as alternative solvents, in that order.
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