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1942 P Lincoln Cent Lamination, Oxidized Dark "Streak", & ?

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1942 P Lincoln Cent lamination, oxidized dark "streak", & ?
This is a well-circulated cent that is odd.

2.72 grams (42 grains)
18.8 mm

My first thought was that this was a "lamination" coin with acid issues but there are some inconsistencies with everything being "acid" related.
This is an odd one that appears to have an odd lamination with an oxidized dark streak running through the middle of it on both sides. SW to NE on the obv and corresponding NW to SE on the reverse. This isn't from a permanent marker or stain but seems to be from something (a copper streak?) that runs through the coin.

The streak at first appeared black but when getting images I realized it is dark green (oxidized copper most likely).

When magnified, this green material is in recessed holes in the surface.

Also, in the field in front of Lincoln's face are some raised odd star-shaped (for lack of a better description) anomalies. Maybe crystalline in structure might be a better description of them.

There is at least one on the reverse as well. They are raised and seem too symmetrical to be contact marks and too numerous to be manmade.

Other raised areas in the field reminded me of frost on a window, OSB sheathing material, or the old game of Pick-up Sticks with irregular raised lines overlapping each other.

For the record- I see no aliens, rabbits, or unicorns in the raised areas. But this isn't Pareidolia either.

(I did find online references to Crystalline structures of copper but the info was beyond my paygrade to understand if they are only on a molecular level. I'm hoping Silviosi can help with the possible crystalline structures of copper.)

I have seen these odd structures/shapes one other time before and it may have been the same year.
Anyway, here are the images and let me know your thoughts.
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My thoughts are a lamination with acid damage. It's an oddity for sure. I'll be waiting for other members thoughts as well.
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@ PETE: You know I am the most critical on the term LAM. Your coin was delaminated before strike. It is for me a rare to see ends of the roll. The hole you see come from the melting carbon which always is the last to purge with metal. I do not see acid involve but Ca oxidant.

How come they at mint do not cut the roll correctly? I have no idea. Very rare I see such coins. What you see black-green it is just carbon. Me I will preserve this coin. I do not think to day we will find many as your.

IMHO. Mike can confirm.
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Hmm, mostly looks like corrosive damage to me, I can't explain the dark streak though.
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I seem to remember posting a coin with similar star-shaped patterns, but that coin would be hard to find as probably in the folders of random stuff. But this coin looks pretty funky, and probably beyond one thing going on (or am I stating the obvious). I am guess that the coin is a fairly straightforward lam that has been treated by some chemicals in some way and/or dropped in a tub of liquid nitrogen? Always neat to see fun ones like this and try to guess how it got to where it is.
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Very cool looking coin with a lot happening! I know you live close to the ocean, any possibility this coin spent a few decades in saltwater? We've all seen what coins out of a fountain look like but I have no idea what several years in the ocean, or at least the sand would do.
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Quite a mix with this one--lamination issue(s) with what appears to be 'damage' from being exposed to a corrosive environment--then much circulation wear over the rears. Fun find and 2x2 worthy as a curiosity.
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Several layers of laminations noted, and as others noted, possible corrosive environment help with the texture of this cent.
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Thanks for the great replies. It is an odd one for sure and it's already in a flip.

I do live about 10 miles from the coast but it's not a result of salt water or salty air environment.

I really believe this has some elements of the copper alloy not being mixed properly as well.
The only analogy that comes to mind is making something with dough. When you mix the different components together sometimes flour will get between the folds when folding it over and prevent everything from blending properly in the middle.

The dark streak on both sides makes me think there is some material that permeates the mix and is exposed on both sides. Whatever that material is seems to be more reactive and is oxidizing into the darker color.

This probably isn't relevant but something that comes to mind for the time period is the "shell casing" cents supposedly made from repurposed shell casings from the war. Some contaminant on the metal? I have no clue if this might be relevant but thought I'd throw it out there for consideration.

The odd raised elements in the fields are too symmetrical to be from contact marks. Plus they are raised.
Thanks again everyone.

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