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1840 Gold Dollar Fantasy

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 Posted 06/26/2023  10:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add yugotex to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just wondering if anyone has ever seen this particular Gold Dollar. Have done extensive Googling without finding another. Any input would be most appreciated.
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 Posted 06/26/2023  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a really odd bird, yugotex. The US didn't start minting $1 gold coins until 1849, yet yours has a date of 1840. The obverse is crudely reminiscent of some of the California gold tokens issued much later, yet those did not have the reverse like yours. A real mystery.
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 Posted 06/27/2023  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Out of curiosity, what is the weight and diameter?
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 Posted 06/27/2023  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yugotex to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Diameter ~13 mm. Weight ~ 0.6 grams.
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 Posted 06/27/2023  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very crude replica/ fantasy. The weight should be 1.67 grams for a gold dollar.
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Agree w/you. Crude fantasy. But appears early & can't find another example.
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 Posted 06/27/2023  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With that weight, I'm guessing it's just yellow brass, as opposed to some of the "California gold" tourist/fantasy pieces which contain actual gold.
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 Posted 06/27/2023  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yugotex to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree that the wt makes it likely Brass...but, still seems to be an older issue...strange no others seem to be around.
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 Posted 06/27/2023  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any thoughts on whether this could be a more modern Than 1840 spiel marke? Or does the one dollar denomination rule out that possibility?
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 Posted 06/28/2023  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yugotex to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Believe the dollar denomination (and the portrait) eliminate the possibility of it being a spiel marke. Generally looks to be of US origin.
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