So I saw this coin and kind of liked it - EF45, I'm thinking - been cleaned at some point. Inspecting it more closely from seller's pics I see an area between stars 1 & 2 that extends up diagonally towards the jaw. Looks slightly raised. Repair? I also wondered about the area above the date that extends across and down between the date and the 13th star. Ideas? Comments? Can't help but love that "2." Thanks.
My guess between stars 1 and 2 is finger grease from handling. Same strange shadowing on the right side of the date.
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i dont think its sharp enough for a 45 but you have the cleaning down. in fact if you look close at the obv fields right behind the profile and around the date you will see some darker discoloration. to me this looks like the coin was lacquered and then an attempted cleaning to remove it
I'm thinking that probably most of the coins from this era have been cleaned at some point. Those that haven't are in the minority. Frankly, I still like the look of the coin. All depends on the price...
cleaning is one thing. damaged is another. if the coin was lacquered thats a different thing all together. maybe someone else will chime in on this.
here is the PCGS training video on spotting altered surfaces in it, it shows an example of a lacquered coin. these type of damaged coins would receive a PCGS code of 94 for an altered surface. no matter how well the coin was cleaned a TPG would be able to pick that up hope this helps
Thanks for the link. Interesting. The example they showed of a lacquered coin was very obvious, though. I wish they'd shown one that was more subtle. It's surprising to me that acetone won't cut through the old lacquer - I'd think it would dissolve it like paint. I can't decide about this coin, but I still like the detail and it's in a price range I can probably afford. Obviously cleaned, but old lacquered (?)
Not lacquered IMO but definitely cleaned. The area you photographed close-up looks like a spot removal -- notice how the "grain" of the surface looks different compared to the surrounding metal?
The early copper collectors and purists would probably never consider buying a cleaned coin but this coin shows great details and is still attractive to my eyes. For the right price I would not hesitate to add one like this to my collection.
Well an XF-40 slabbed is about $200. Raw is about $150. Consider the cleaning I would knock it down in half. I'd be between $75-$100 but probably would hold at $90 tops.
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