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Second 1865 2 Cent For Comments And Evaluation

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Different coin. Starting looking at these and found another one that I really like. Tell me why I'm wrong. Small ding on the "2" , and a very small apparent rim ding at 6 on reverse, and something small on rim around 7, but I like the rest of the coin.
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i think its a nice AU55 coin
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I guess folks aren't interested in these very much. I expected a little more input. BTW, is that a little rim damage at 1 on reverse? Doesn't bother me, but I wonder if that's enough to detail the coin - don't think so. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I made an offer and it was accepted. I'm thinking low AU at least and I liked the look of the coin versus the other examples I found in the same general grade. Paid $90.
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It's a nice AU I think, I am no fan of rim dings, one thing that will make me say no to pretty much any coin, but this one may not be so bad, might even get a straight grade at a TPG, though it's not really worth sending it in. The Top serif on the D in UNITED has a partial serif, most are missing after 1864 in, 1865 their was a rehubbing done that erased it on future dates. The plain 5 has more full serifs than the fancy 5 which this coin is. A full serif on the fancy 5 is quite rare, but that really only applies to deuce variety collectors like myself, it doesn't really bring much of a premium yet, being there aren't a lot of collectors looking for them.

$90.00? Maybe a tad much for it, but still if you can live with it it's not a horrible price to pay. Personally I'd be around no more than $70.00
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Thanks, westcoin, for all the info. I'd figure a guy with a 2 cent piece for an icon would know of what he speaks. When I compared this coin to many other raw coins in a similar price range, it was the best of the bunch. I felt OK at $90 because I liked the look of the coin, but guess I'm pretty close to fullboat retail - I see sheet with AU58 from $105 to $115.
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Thanks, westcoin, for all the info. I'd figure a guy with a 2 cent piece for an icon would know of what he speaks.


I am a bit nutty for them I'll admit. I have around 2-3 double row boxes completely full of only Two Cent Pieces, and a few PCGS boxes as well. I sold off my high end sets years ago to cover my Dad's medical bills when he started to get worse. I had a Business Strike set of mostly brown and a few red browns in MS66 including all the major varieties, and the same with the proofs except for no Proof Small Motto. I sold them way before the prices reached the levels the high end coins are in today. Most were under $1500 and many were under $1K back then. A few the 1867 DDO I had in a NGC MS64RB, and the 1872 DDO in MS66BN but not designated on the holder. Those were the really only tough ones I had to wait awhile to get them.

After I sold them off, I decided to go after the die pair variety set - or one of each known die pair. I'm not going after grade anymore, now I just need to be able to tell the variety, so mostly VF to AU coins, though I have a lot of VG-F still and a pile of low grade some I can't even tell the variety on, even with my stereo microscope. There was a time I'd just ask a dealer at the bigger shows, like Long Beach of FUN - What do you have in Two Cent Pieces, if they handed me a box, I'd quickly flip though it (10-20 coins) and if there were say mostly Fine or better coins, I'd ask "How much" and the dealer would usually reply which one," and my answer was "the whole box, or all of them" That is how I got so many, now I'm more picky, I sold off most of my duplicates though still have a bunch I can't bear to sell or trade away. LOL

My newest passion has seen me attend a coin show earlier this month, and for the first time in years, I didn't even buy a single two center. I did look at a bunch though, now days it's mostly British 18th century provincial tokens, primarily of Coventry, Warwickshire.

P.S. My avatar is my old NGC 1864LM PR66BN last sold for $4312.50 still in the original old soapbox holder at a Heritage auction in 2008. I sold it back around 2003 I think for under $2K DOH!
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Came today, Westcoin. I started a new thread, but I'm darned happy, even if I did pay up for it.
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I'm at AU-55.
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I guess folks aren't interested in these very much.


I think most folks that purchase these do so to fill a hold in their type set rather than collect the entire series. I think they are cool coins but I only have a 2 or 3 of them. probably more of an oddity than anything but I do find them interesting and unique. since its such a short series pulling together an entire collection of them is not that difficult with the exception of only 2 years (64 sm motto & 72) which are a little more challenging.
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