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I hope this is the correct section for this. If not, I apologize. I just found this in a bag of wheat cents that I got from an antique store. I did a search online and it seems to be some kind of a William Jennings Bryan 16 to 1 token but I can't find this specific one or information on it. I'm not sure what year it is. It's pretty thin and weighs 2.49 grams. I'm curious about the history behind it and also what it's worth because it's going on ebay. Thank you.  
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There is a site called Token Catalog, they might have some information for you.
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I can't help you on the history, but I took a look at tokencatalog.com and it is listed there. They show a couple past sales on ebay, one in Aug 2013 for $119.50, and another in Sep 2021 for $114. I didn't verify this so take this info with a grain of salt, and hopefully someone will come along with better info. By the way,  to the forum!
Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188
Edited by hokiefan_82 07/15/2023 6:24 pm
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 to the CCF
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Thank you all so much for the replies and warm welcomes
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Bedrock of the Community
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From Rulau's Standard Catalog of United States Tokens, 1700 - 1900 (3rd Ed.): Rulau Lin 3. "Associated with William Jennings Bryan's free silver movement of 1896, though previously unlisted."
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Quote: I hope this is the correct section for this. Better is in the subforum for tokens.  This one is really nice—thx for posting!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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I'm not a big token guy but I really like this one. Especially the obverse.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507
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I agree that as far as tokens go, this one is really nice and has great eye appeal. The big question for those of you that specialize in these, what's it worth? I would like to put it on ebay as a Buy it Now and just let it set there until it sells but what would be a fair asking price? I thought about letting it go at auction but what I don't know is how big the audience is that would bid on it.
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@legit, as the market for these is likely thin, you might not find examples of this token having been sold previously when filtering for that on ebay (although this is generally our advice when folks ask how much their coin/token is worth). I do note that if you create an account on tokencatalog.com, you get access to their pricing info. However, I'm not sure if this one has pricing or not as I personally haven't taken that step.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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hokiefan provided the past sales prices for this token from tokencatalog. Were I listing it, the BIN price would be higher with a Make offer option. Alternatively, it could be listed for auction with a starting price in that range and see what happens.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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@hondo, I'm aware he posted the past sales prices however there's no way to look at those listings to determine their grade / quality of the pieces as they were both from several years ago. I was asking if someone knew what my token might be worth based on the pictures that I posted. I created an account on tokencatalog and saw similar tokens that had much higher prices. For example, TC-206669; Haddock (2019) 2150; HSD-Wj-16cNevada Trade Tokens - Hoskins, Schilling and Dunn has several, past sales of around $500. So I think basing my particular token off past sales from 2017 that I have no way of seeing how they looked is not a good way to value my token.
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The token market is very unlike the coin market, in that condition is not necessarily a great determinant of selling price. Many of these are quite rare, and there are more collectors than particular tokens. An exception is that heavily damaged ones will sell for lower prices. Yours is in excellent condition, and should command a hefty price. As I said, list it for a high price and see what happens. Why not $500, based on your information? I must note, however, that tokencatalog does not include rarity levels for tokens. As such, it's hard to determine how many of a particular one were "issued" without having a specialized reference text. Perhaps someone can provide information as to how many Crumpton tokens and Hoskins tokens were produced.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Thank you, Hondo. I appreciate the information.
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legitness, my specialized area of collecting is Louisiana trade tokens. Fortunately, there is an incredible reference for them: Crawford and Farber, Louisiana Trade Tokens, 2nd Ed. For each token, there is a combined "desirability" and "rarity" rating. Desirability ranks from A (most sought after) to G (not especially popular topic), followed by rarity from 1 - 10, where 1 = > 100 and 10 = unique. G1s don't interest me, while A10s are rarely up for sale.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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