New Type Of Fake/Counterfeit Hitting The Market.

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CopperHunter Valued Member Canada 59 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 07:24 am A short post to warn about three type of counterfeits I have encountered online. They all look nickel plated and have no numismatic value at all. Edited by CopperHunter 07/17/2023 07:26 am Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 08:29 am Do you have them in hand? John1 Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 09:53 am Most probably die struck. In most of these sorts of cases the dies are made from impressions of existing coins, and the dies subsequently hardened before anywhere between a few hundred to few thousand copies are struck from them. detection: Even if the metal for the copies came from re cycled genuine coins, the copies are at least 2nd generation from the original coins, and so, in at least a few locations on the copies, the detail is less distinct, often to the point of appearing somewhat 'mushy'. Report this Post to the Staff
CopperHunter Valued Member Canada 59 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 09:58 am Quote: Do you have them in hand? I don't, but I have seen people fooled by these pieces. They usually sale at a 30-50% discount compare to real ones. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 11:22 am Thanks for this! to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 2:47 pm Yikes! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
NumismaticsFTW Pillar of the Community United States 2280 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 3:30 pm Those are garbage, easily identified as fake. Noobies have to watch out though. Tuition at it's finest. You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94892 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 7:03 pm I wonder what the weight of these are. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
KenKat Pillar of the Community United States 4085 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 10:02 pm They look terrible honestly but I feel bad for people who don't have experience to know what to look for. My 7070 US Type Set My 7100 Lincoln Cent Set (now with updates!) Report this Post to the Staff
kbbpll Pillar of the Community United States 4233 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 11:21 pm The first one is hideous, especially the reverse. The next two I can see where they would fool someone inexperienced. Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Pillar of the Community United States 5770 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 07:06 am I'm with Dearborn about the weight. I intentionally bought some counterfeit Peace $1 w/clashes and "CC" Morgans for 5$ that looked decent in hand but were only about 19 grams. A friend told me he thought they were made from magnesium. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow. Report this Post to the Staff
CopperHunter Valued Member Canada 59 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 08:47 am Quote: I'm with Dearborn about the weight. There are new fakes with 90% silver. Using only the weight of a coin as an indicator to tell if it is fake or not will be hard in the future. Edited by CopperHunter 07/18/2023 08:53 am Report this Post to the Staff
hfjacinto Pillar of the Community United States 7273 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 08:59 am These aren't new they have been around for a while. But these are so obvious that if you can't tell these are fake you shouldn't be buying coins on ebay. My Slabbed Dansco 7070 with Gold Page My Slabbed IHC Set My Slabbed 20th Century Type Set Report this Post to the Staff
CopperHunter Valued Member Canada 59 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 09:10 am Quote: These aren't new they have been around for a while. But these are so obvious that if you can't tell these are fake you shouldn't be buying coins on ebay. Agree, but it surprised me that there are still people who ask if these pieces are real or not on the forum. I thought making a post might warn them if they encounter a similar piece in the future. Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19120 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 09:11 am Curious about the weight. Report this Post to the Staff
hfjacinto Pillar of the Community United States 7273 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 10:20 am Quote: Agree, but it surprised me that there are still people who ask if these pieces are real or not on the forum. I thought making a post might warn them if they encounter a similar piece in the future. It's a noble effort, BUT there are thousands of threads about parking lot coin finds that are just that road rashed coins that people keep on posting as errors. The average person isn't into coins for the history of artistry, they are in it for the profit margin (I found this error and it's worth billions). People on ebay play off that. Here is an "American Silver Eagle" that I found in my fathers collection. I know nothing about coins and want to sell it fast and cheap. First $15 takes it. The greedy think it's a super deal jump on a fake coin , try to sell it and told its fake. It's the same in that everyone thinks they found a copper 1943 or steel 1944, greed takes over from common sense. My Slabbed Dansco 7070 with Gold Page My Slabbed IHC Set My Slabbed 20th Century Type Set Report this Post to the Staff
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