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1971-P Kennedy Half 40 Percent Silver & Planchet Striations

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1971P with planchet striations on a 40 percent silver planchet. I'm bringing it this weekend to a friend who has a Sigma Metalytics Verifier. The coin weighs 11.12 grams. Opinions? Thoughts? Thank you.


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Please keep us updated.
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Cool find! Hope it passes muster.
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I look forward to seeing the results.
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were 71's 40% silver? I thought that stopped in 1970.
Is that why we see some copper on the edge? A plated coin?
It was in 1975-1976 that they went to 40% silver for the Bicentennial.

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were 71's 40% silver? I thought that stopped in 1970.
Is that why we cee some copper on the edge?


No. 71's should not be silver but there are known examples made using the wrong planchet. The copper, or what appears to be copper, is intermittent. Some areas of the reed look silver. I'm hoping it's a double error.
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There is copper showing on the edge in some of the pictures. THis could have been plated at one time. The weight of a 40% is 11.1 to 11.9.

A clad can be 10.8 to 11.7g. So it is within tolerances of clad also.
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closer to clad than 40%.
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At a glance, the coin appears to have been plated. Wonder what that feature is coming off of Kennedy's bust, pointing to the 7.
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if the copper looks red, it's not a 40%
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The Sigma will not show you accurate because it is not design for the test you need. This it is design for bars, bullions and not for clad or plated coins. Then the results because it is EMF is just the interpretation of the operator.

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According to a Coin World article on an ANACS certified 40% silver 1971 Kennedy half dollar:

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ANACS senior numismatist Michael Fahey said graders relied on the 40 percent silver 1971-D coin's specific gravity in making the silver-copper clad determination.

The coin's specific gravity is 9.5, close to the standard 9.53 for silver-copper clad, with a weight of 11.44 grams, within tolerance of the U.S. Mint standard 11.5-gram planchet.

Specific gravity for copper-nickel clad is 8.92 and a coin's weight is 11.34 grams.

So apparently the ANACS expert grader chose not to do a direct metal test, and instead did a specific gravity test. That probably isn't too tough to accomplish, probably any high school chemistry teacher would be able to precisely measure displacement. Archimedes for the win!
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Looking a the edge of this one, I see evidence of plating.
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