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1964 D Kennedy Heavy Die Polish Lines

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I was taking a closer look at this one and it appears to have die polish lines. They aren't on the devices.
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 Posted 08/05/2023  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're correct. These are also called Die Scratches.
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Yes you called it @tja!
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Why would it have those at such an early stage there aren't really any marks on it otherwise.
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 Posted 08/05/2023  04:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Either from when the die was originally made, or it could have been repaired. Not at all unusual.
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Nice closeup shots!
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Thanks I thought it was cleaned at first until I looked closer but the scratches are all over the obverse.
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Yes you can have those polishing lines on new Dies. The period was characterized for more production is possible. Probably you has an Halve strike in 1966.

PS: The worst year for Dies Quality was in 1976-D Quarters, Those coins to find one clean on circulation coins it is a challenge.
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I really don't see what they would try to polish out though there aren't even hardly any contact marks. It has little spots that look like splash marks of some sort. It has a polished look as well though because the luster iis different than business strikes I have.
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The scratches run all throughout the fields on the obverse
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To understand this you has to go to Eva Adams interrogation by the Congress in June 1964. their the Eva told that the Reserve double the production and without derogatory approve for the next years could not be done. So the Congress approves for 1965 and 1966 to strike coins with back years marks. The San Francisco Mint reopened on 1rst August 1965. so the Mints has to fullfill the Reserve requirements and fast without the standards requirements.

You have to understand that the Mints are workers for the US Reserve and not more then this.

Hope help.

PS. In 1976 Bicentenary coins was on the same pattern because was only one year design.
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What does that mean though I'm just wondering about why they would polish a new business strike die, wouldn't the marks slowly disappear or would they get worse looking as more are struck. Do those mean they were just struck early on in the minting process like how they designate first strikes. That would explain the luster which actually look like a Morgan dollar I have. Well I guess they changed the design a little as well it has the normal hair with broken rays.

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@ Tjames88, You seem that you do not understand to mixt the Minting processes. After Die striking, the die was polish in that time, and is point. You has a coin of a period and you has to assign what was in that period and not 40 or more years ago.

If this do not help you, sorry you are on your own.
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