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Tjames88 Valued Member Canada 196 Posts	Posted 08/06/2023 3:56 pm I have a proof Memorial cent from 1964 with streaks of something but they don't look scratched in. Maybe cleaned before it was put into the set looks like windex streaks Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 08/06/2023 4:01 pm Can't tell much from these pics. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 08/06/2023 4:21 pm Not so sure this is a proof. Report this Post to the Staff
Dutch-Tigger Valued Member United States 301 Posts	Posted 08/06/2023 4:22 pm Maybe the protective packaging Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19158 Posts	Posted 08/06/2023 4:28 pm I think it's a proof, but I can't account for the streak appearance. If this coin is still in government packaging (plastic case) along with other '64 coins, large and sharp pics of the entire case might be useful to see. Report this Post to the Staff
Tjames88 Valued Member Canada 196 Posts	Posted 08/06/2023 5:05 pm It has to be a proof coin the luster is there it's shiny like a proof but only at certain angles. The straight shots appear kind of flat. Other than the cleaning streaks it wouldn't have any other contact marks otherwise. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96209 Posts	Posted 08/06/2023 6:27 pm a weak woody appearance on this proof. Can we get a image of the entire set? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Tjames88 Valued Member Canada 196 Posts	Posted 08/06/2023 6:50 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Yokozuna Pillar of the Community United States 4618 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 04:49 am It doesn't have the mirrored fields I would have expected to see on a proof, but looking at the other coins in the set, it may be that all the coins were struck as proofs, but are now fogged and hazy, with the exception of the Jefferson. I think the darker areas on the coin are the start of brown toning. This set may have been stored in an area that wasn't ideal for proof storage (humid environment, maybe near the ocean.) If so, the toning may continue until the coin is an even brown color. I have a 1964 proof cent that has gone from red to brown while in an ANACS 'soap bar' slab. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! Report this Post to the Staff
bobby131313 Forum Dad United States 24161 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 09:08 am That isn't a US mint proof set, someone put this together themselves, I'm not so sure it's a proof. This is mint packaging... https://www.coincommunity.com/us_pr...ets/1964.asp Shop CCF Members on eBay. Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19158 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 09:12 am The additional photos were helpful, thanks. Report this Post to the Staff
Tjames88 Valued Member Canada 196 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 09:12 am I think it's toning as well but in the vent the color difference is way off compared to a proof. Also the toning on the silver shouldn't it be black. The quarter and half are kind of orange with dirt tones, the only color I can think of. Can toning change a color that drastically though Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96209 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 09:14 am All the coins are 'milked over' except for the nickel. A sign of poor storage either before or after being placed in this after market coin holder. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Tjames88 Valued Member Canada 196 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 09:15 am The only way I could tell it was a proof is at certain angles Report this Post to the Staff
Tjames88 Valued Member Canada 196 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 09:36 am The edge of the rim on the cent is way too clean to be a business strike. The edges are too even I just noticed in one of these pictures how evenly it was struck Report this Post to the Staff
Yokozuna Pillar of the Community United States 4618 Posts	Posted 08/07/2023 10:30 am The last set of images show more of the mirrored fields that I would expect. I'm not sure what type of exposure is at play here, but I think both the haze and the beginning of the darker toning on the cent show that the cent has been environmentally damaged somewhat. I know your question was about the streaks and not about certification, but if the coins were of an extremely rare variety, I would think that one of the conservation services would be in order. As this isn't a hard coin to find high grade '64 proof sets, I think it's best to let it alone. The slightly darker streaks are noticeable, but they really don't cause a problem, in my opinion. If you want to have the coin(s) conserved because of their sentimental value, then one of the TPG Conservation/Encapsulation packages would be a good bet. The holder looks like an aftermarket (Capital?) plastic hard case does it say 'Proof Set' or 'Mint Set' somewhere on the front? Does anyone have experience with proof sets that were kept in a humid environment, possibly near saltwater, or in direct sunlight? Something keeps making me think that this might be the case. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! Report this Post to the Staff
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