1964-D Lincoln Cent Error What Type Of Doubling Is This?

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grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 5:35 pm I have seen DDD doubling, MD doubling, but this is a first for me. Those of you who know me can testify that I have been searching hundreds of BU rolls of Lincolns for almost two years. I am embarrassed.to say how many I have bought and gone through. Over 2000 rolls probably. anyway, I have not seen this before. Does anyone have an idea of what this is? I have found 14 exactly like this so it's not a one and done kind of error. ( if it's an error at all) Report this Post to the Staff

Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74189 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 5:42 pm Die Chip? Is it raised? Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6505 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 6:27 pm I don't see it on coppercoins, but it might be worth sending them an example to examine. https://www.coppercoins.com/diesearch.php 1964, D, DDO as parameters. Also worth pointing out, there is a heavy deterioration berm or Machine Doubling all along the front of Lincoln's profile. Edited by Brandmeister 08/10/2023 6:28 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 6:31 pm Not seeing DDO. Report this Post to the Staff
kurdlezuit Pillar of the Community United States 1034 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 6:33 pm Looks like a die chip to me as well. Or strike through foil, I think is what they call it? Looks like it wraps on top of the right leg of the "R" Edited by kurdlezuit 08/10/2023 6:35 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96071 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 6:51 pm I'll join the die chip group here. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34410 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 7:32 pm The fact that there are 14 identical examples also lends credence to this being a die chip. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6505 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 7:52 pm Repeatability just says it's a die feature. Looking at copper coins, there are multiple DDO listed for that year with a little chunk of junk sticking out beneath the L. That's why I'm saying that someone should evaluate it more thoroughly. I have no idea how someone decides that a line fragment below the L is a DDO, but somewhere else is a die chip. https://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln...ie_state=mds https://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln...ie_state=mds https://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln...ie_state=mds https://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln...ie_state=mds Report this Post to the Staff
grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 8:39 pm Quote: Repeatability just says it's a die feature. Looking at copper coins, there are multiple DDO listed for that year with a little chunk of junk sticking out beneath the L. That's why I'm saying that someone should evaluate it more thoroughly. I have no idea how someone decides that a line fragment below the L is a DDO, but somewhere else is a die chip. All 14 examples are exactly like the one you see. I agree with you about the mark under the L of liberty but I am sure people who know much more than me have studied this with a better scope. If anyone is interested in examining one of these for yourself, shoot me an email with an address. I am as curious as a couple other members. maybe I can send one to silvio, he is good at that stuff. I am sure coop will know also! Edited by grospoisson 08/10/2023 9:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CherryPicker1 Pillar of the Community United States 646 Posts	Posted 08/10/2023 9:22 pm All I'm seeing is a die chip, no evidence of a DDO. Report this Post to the Staff
grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 08/11/2023 08:05 am I don't know if this changes anything. When you say die chip , I thik of something on the die or a broken portion of the letter or number( if it'd this type there would be evidence on the coin where the break occurred (yes?). So something happened to the die? Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34410 Posts	Posted 08/11/2023 08:11 am Yes with a die chip, a small hunk of the die has broken off and then when it is used to strike a coin, the metal flows into the space left behind. I do note that due to the oddly regular shape of this region next to the letter R, it might be a die dent instead of a chip. I don't believe it to be doubling of any sort though. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
CherryPicker1 Pillar of the Community United States 646 Posts	Posted 08/11/2023 08:52 am Definitely would say don't hold coins on their face, especially if it's a Lincoln Cent with lustrous fields. You might have left a big fingerprint on the coin when you took that picture which will never come off. Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Pillar of the Community United States 5774 Posts	Posted 08/11/2023 09:19 am This could be an effect of Die Deterioration or die damage. This appears to be a late die state coin. I notice a large die chip on the top of column 12 on the reverse and a raised "bump" on the shoulder. The "bump" on the shoulder might be die damage and that area by the R might be as well. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow. Report this Post to the Staff
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