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122Degrees New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 08/25/2023 12:50 pm Saw some examples of the B being filled in but not the E. You guys think this is just damage or die related? Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 08/25/2023 1:23 pm Looks like a nice BIE to me. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34397 Posts	Posted 08/25/2023 1:29 pm Yes, despite the circulation wear, that spot to the left of the letter E seems to be a die chip. Nice find! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73937 Posts	Posted 08/25/2023 2:20 pm Nice BIE! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19142 Posts	Posted 08/25/2023 3:02 pm Nice die chip--a BIE example. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95443 Posts	Posted 08/25/2023 3:17 pm a bit beat up, but a nice BIE. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 08/25/2023 3:50 pm to the CCF and see if you can find it here http://cuds-on-coins.com/ Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 08/26/2023 01:09 am Sorry it is not a BIE. It is a Die chip but not BIE. The die chip do not connect with the B. Has a flattering from circulation which give this impression of BIE. Report this Post to the Staff
rmpsrpms Pillar of the Community United States 4037 Posts	Posted 08/26/2023 09:41 am Indeed it is a BIE. The chip does not need to connect to be called a BIE. In fact most such chips, even if they are between other letters such as the IB or RT are known as BIEs since they are a class of die errors caused by die chips between the letters of LIBERTY. Furthermore, this chip does actually extend all the way between the letters B and E, so would be a "full" BIE. If it had not extended between them, it would be an "associated" BIE. This is terminology from Jean Cohen. The Cuds on Coins terminology may be a bit different, as the COC scheme is generally based on Hardy. 1957-D was a banner year for BIEs. A quick look shows that this might be one of these: B402: does the coin have an RPM? B346: does the coin have a crack lower right wheat to rim? B323 I have not cross-referenced to see if COC has examples of the above, but that might be useful for you to do. Contact me for photographic equipment or visit my home page at: http://macrocoins.com Report this Post to the Staff
JC Stevens Pillar of the Community United States 538 Posts	Posted 08/26/2023 10:18 am Yes it is a BIE! In the Hardy Index yours is a DL+ "DL+" indicates a break of ½ or more, but less than ¾ that extends below the lowest level of the letters. http://cuds-on-coins.com/hardy-index-system/ Die Chips in LIBERTY on Lincoln Cents became popular for some collectors in the 60's. In this handbook Howard O Hardy developed a schematic method for identifying and classifying Liberty Chips that was called the Hardy Index System. The index was applied to over 1800 illustrations by John Gedko for this handbook. The last illustration in the book was a 1970D. It seems that interest in the Guild and Die Chips in LIBERTY faded with the passing of Mr. Bush. For whatever reason there seems to be very few Die Breaks in Chips on Lincoln Cents minted in the 70"s and 80's. Then starting in the 90's we started seeing more. Cuds-on-Coins http://cuds-on-coins.com/ Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 08/27/2023 12:40 am Thanks JC and rmpsrpms for the information's. I learn something on this post. For me a Die Chip it is a Die Chip. From point of view of the Minting, this place was and before the new modern Mint technology the most vulnerable place where the Die will loose the molecular union. Many factors contribute to this (and I can explain the main reason of this Die Chip if someone is interested), but is very interesting for me to know was cataloged and attribute. Thanks again, every day we learn something. Silvio Edited by silviosi 08/27/2023 12:46 am Report this Post to the Staff
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