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Here's a good one. If you are unfamiliar with defective copper plating on a shield cent and how it'll look characteristically study and research them. This is the best and most extreme example I've come across. Happy to add this one to my shield cent collection.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Great error coin!
Errers and Varietys.
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Gorham me I see the apparently zinc over (raised) the cooper. O and R have same directions so I doubt in the plating process could happened.
I could be wrong and we will see others explanations, I wait for those, pointed explanations.
PS: Great photos, Congrat.
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08/30/2023 11:28 pm
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Interesting!  I only have these with all of the plating missing. This one really catches the eye. If you can, store it with some type of desiccant. Don't get it wet (or feed it after midnight) or the whole this could just turn to zinc powder. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Do you plan on sending it to PCGS or NGC or ANACS? John1  |
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. Do you plan on sending it to PCGS or NGC or ANACS? Don't plan on it. It'll stay in my shield Cent binder in a 2x2. If I am to sell it then I'll grade it. But that day won't come for awhilez |
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If you plan on grading them, it might cost more in the near future than it does right now ANACS is the least expensive. John1 |
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This appears to be pre-strike planchet damage, in which some of the copper plating was scraped off.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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. This appears to be pre-strike planchet damage, in which some of the copper plating was scraped off. I know 100% it is not damage the copper couldn't have been scratched off. Looking at liberty and other devices how would the copper plating be scratched and leave devices that are raised perfect. There are other examples graded by ngc too for defective copper plating. Characteristics are all there for defective copper plating. The rim area and reverse with the scratches on them idk how to explain them but they are seen with defective copper plating in more extreme examples. Here are more examples two graded by NGC. (Not my coin) And two from my collection.     |
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To me, it looks like these coins have something on them  |
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Well with the coin presented at the top of this topic, I'll agree with Mike, on pre strike damage - seeing all the scrapes and pitting on it. Still a very cool coin - maybe it got caught in the machinery on its way to the strike.
as for the images of the other coins posted after, look like it could be plating issues as described.
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. seeing all the scrapes and pitting on it. Still a very cool coin - maybe it got caught in the machinery on its way to the strike. The scrapes and pitting are seen on some of these defective copper plating shield cents. Also as for it being caught in machinery on the way to the strike it wouldn't have these characteristics seen they'd be much more damage throughout the whole coin. The fields and middle of the coin show no damage as such. |
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My bad I interpreted mike diamonds comment wrong in my head.
I do think there is some slight pre strike damage but it doesn't account for the incomplete plating/ defective copper plating or defective zinc blank that's seen thru out the whole coin.
Which ever one would like to call it.
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08/31/2023 12:58 pm
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What would be consider the error here bc the terms all kind of intertwine with each other.
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Defective blank/Planchet (zinc being defective so the copper never bonded In The first place)
Defective copper plating
Or incomplete copper plating those two kinda go together tho.
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From Ken Potters Facebook page, his take on it.... "IMHO, this is an extreme Feeder Mechanism Scrape, that like the worst ones not only damage the die but the often the coin at the same time."
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. IMHO, this is an extreme Feeder Mechanism Scrape, that like the worst ones not only damage the die but the often the coin at the same time."
I'm pretty sure he revisited it and revised what he said if this was early on in the post. The whole coin what we are seeing is def not only due to feeder mechanism or pre strike damage. There's 5% that prob was. The rest being seeing is grittyness and crud from impurities in the zinc either from being heated up to much or other things. And the copper plating wasn't able to bond to those areas due to the defect in the zinc blank. And being rolled to be punched into a blank we see that metal, crud and build up from said impurities. |
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