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18xx Braided Hair Large Cent Struck Through Grease?

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I ended up with this, after buying a huge lot of coins, off of a friend 2 years ago. Is this Struck Through Grease? Half the date is missing. I don't know if it's from being Struck Through Grease or circulation wear or both. Any help would be appreciated. I can take new, better pictures if needed.
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Seems to have missing/faint letters on the reverse directly opposite. Some sort of localized corrosion?
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Kbbpll, I noticed the too. Maybe from circulation wear or something?
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Can't even fill a hole with that one!
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Can't even fill a hole with that one!


Nope.
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Wear would be a good explanation given the same location obverse and reverse appear to have very similar degrees of wear.

I'm just wondering how that spot obv and rev could wear so much over the rest of the surfaces.
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Wear would be a good explanation given the same location obverse and reverse appear to have very similar degrees of wear.

I'm just wondering how that spot obv and rev could wear so much over the rest of the surfaces.


Good question southsav. I am not really sure at this point. I ended up just writing 18XX for the date, on the paper insert. This one will probably always be a mystery.
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Could be grease filled, could also be a tapered planchet. Several varieties in the mid 1850's are also known for very weak dates.
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Thank you for the info Conder101! I appreciate it.
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I think someone just effaced the numbers...
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Oldgrouchyguy, could be. I don't think we'll ever truly know what happened to it.
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Errors and Varieties: yeah, you'd have to clean it down to the metal to see if it's interrupted there... it seems to be the an answer, as there are sharp tool marks on the obverse as well. A "skill" thing...
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It seems very plausible. I just left it alone and wrote "18XX" for the date. The area below the date seems suspicious.
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There are some out there who could Varietize it (and thus date it): how many have the 1 that far left of the bust tip, with a leaning 8, and go from there. Neat whimsey piece
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There are some out there who could Varietize it (and thus date it): how many have the 1 that far left of the bust tip, with a leaning 8, and go from there. Neat whimsey piece


Very good info, thanks!
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Attributing Newcombs is hard enough on worn coins, a dateless coin would be a crazy challenge. It would take me at least a few hours if there were no dramatic cracks or die defects. May be impossible to narrow it down to a single die marriage.

Struck Through Grease makes sense, I would label it as such if there are no tooling marks or damage in the area.
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