1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/13/2023 10:57 am The horizontal bar on the bottom of the E is visible even on the ribbon. * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

91o_collector Valued Member United States 122 Posts	Posted 09/13/2023 1:42 pm Might just be due to the toning, but I don't see an E (a clash on the ribbon would require such a deep clash as to make the E stand out like the 1891 o VAM 1a1) Again, it may be the photos, but not sure that the clashing matches that of a VAM 1B. Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/13/2023 2:23 pm The red arrow points to the bottom horizontal of the E and the white kind of outlines it. Can surely see the lower horizontal on the ribbon and where it turns to finish the letter Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/13/2023 2:33 pm I covered some of the upper E up with the white, when it gets half way down the E does narrow some but is visible Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/13/2023 2:45 pm After looking at it more it looks like it was clashed again after the partial E and that is what I am seeing. I can see the original lines faintly and then another E that goes into the ribbon that lays more horizontal than the first sorta diagonal E Report this Post to the Staff
91o_collector Valued Member United States 122 Posts	Posted 09/13/2023 2:46 pm Compare to the size of the E on 1891 o VAM 1a1 - http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1891-O_VAM-1A1 Your outline is too large to be an E from clash transfer. It almost looks like it could be denticle impressions, but hard to tell from the photos. I would venture it is not likely VAM 1B. Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/13/2023 2:48 pm Well I matched all clash marks and die markers I could find on VAM 1b. Checked others and didnt see anything close to what this coin has Report this Post to the Staff
kbbpll Pillar of the Community United States 4233 Posts	Posted 09/14/2023 12:11 pm Pareidolia from the toning blotches. The E should be oriented roughly parallel to the neighboring leaf. Your "E" is rotated 45 degrees counterclockwise. Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/28/2023 10:51 pm It is definitely that stage, just not sure if it is one further.. attaching pics of the cap clash, date crack, left stars crack and another photo that may show the E better Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/28/2023 10:53 pm Originally I was seeing something else but had matched up all the progression markers so I knew I was in the right area.. the toning really brings the trip back. Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/28/2023 11:04 pm I forgot the crack or gouge through the bottom of Liberty Report this Post to the Staff
kbbpll Pillar of the Community United States 4233 Posts	Posted 09/29/2023 02:20 am http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...887-P_VAM-1B Are you looking at this reference? Nothing in any of your images matches the PUPs in this listing. Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/29/2023 09:10 am Yes that reference and they match exact.. it is a bit tougher to see because of the toning but if you know what you're looking for every one of them are in the pictures just posted Report this Post to the Staff
Newbieee Valued Member United States 98 Posts	Posted 09/29/2023 09:13 am The only thing thats different is the die crack/chip on the right side of the second 8 is smaller so I would assume it is earlier in the stage Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5663 Posts	Posted 09/29/2023 11:18 am I agree with @kbbpll. This does not appear to be a VAM-1B. Report this Post to the Staff
VAMsforMoney Valued Member United States 220 Posts	Posted 09/29/2023 2:34 pm There is no way this is a V1B. Report this Post to the Staff
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