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Trying to figure out exactly what I have here, and of its worth anything. Did a little research and saw it could possibly be a small fortune if it was a certain one... but I am new to coins trying to learn the ropes. I literally found this penny on the floor of my van, was just dropped change. I saw it was really shiny, but also a little different, so inspected closer and saw it was from 1964! So if anyone knows about this coin, I would really appreciate any feedback! Please & thank you! Also... it seems to have a fingerprint or something embedded or stamped onto the front? Took the pictures with different lightings
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Looks pretty clean to me except for that fingerprint as you have noted. I'm interested to see what folks think it will grade as.
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to CCF.
Pics are a little difficult to read, too much glare and too soft. Might be a proof coin but not sure. Fingerprint is a deal breaker for me. Value, not much, around $4 without the fingerprint.Sorry to burst your bubble.
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In this state, just worth a couple of bucks even if a proof.



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This is not one of those

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The small fortune you mention is misunderstood by many people finding a nice looking coin.

Only the highest graded slabbed coins bring the high prices.

It is very rare for a coin to have that highest grade level put on the slab by a grading company. They do keep track. They use nothing verifiable to grade a coin with...it is all subjective. If a coin is broken out and resubmitted, even to the same company, there is no guarantee the coin will grade the same again.

Using PCGS or NGC, which are generally the companies/slabs people pay the highest prices for will cost you 150.00-200.00 by the time all is said and done.

Way too many people pad the companies' pockets misunderstanding all of the above and come away disappointed from paying 200.00 for a coin whose slab says the market will pay face value only.

ANACs is not near as expensive with no required membership fee. The market also does not pay as much for their slabs despite nothing verifiable used by any company to grade and therefore nothing verifiable for any one of them to be rated as "the best" company. No verifiable standard of accuracy means no way to gauge accuracy. And you can find just as many complaints online about any of these three companies.





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Well thanks everyone for the feedback! Was still a pretty cool find being that it was on the floor of my Van lol maybe one day, I'll take it to a coin place if I happen to be in the area. Just for fun. I will definitely post back on here with an update. The fingerprint still baffles me. I tried to do a light cleaning/wipe down... and still didn't come off
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Going to try to take some better pictures with a magnifying glass and some better lighting
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Fingerprints are for ever unless you dip it right after you put prints on it. You would end up damaging the coin to remove the prints now. I also "cleaned up" a few words in one of your posts. I added "for fun"
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I'm 100% sure that's a impaired proof that somehow found it's way into circulation. It's still in decent shape and a cool find but not much monetary value, in perfect condition these only sell for a couple bucks.

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impaired proof mid to upper AU. I've never seen a proof in circulation so its a pretty cool find
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to the CCF and There is enough pictures in your first post, more is not going to change anything. And never try to "clean" any coin.
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Yea I would never try to clean any coin. Thank you all for your input. Onto a new search!
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Good luck to you, I hope you find something worthy
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I'm guessing you read a few ounces of the tons of misinformation out there about 1964 SMS coins. You will never find any 1964 SMS coins in the wild. They were never circulated or released to the public at all.

Brilliant uncirculated 1964 and 1964 D coins are readily available. I have a bucket full, all 1964 and 1964-D, which I give away to kids at shows.

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