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Silver Coins-When Is It Worth Grading?

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 Posted 04/01/2009  10:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add oppyusa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am started a new thread as discussion of my silver dollars does not fit in the foreign coin thread. So as a said in the other thread I have some gold coins (USA Eagle, Canada Maples, Mexican 50 Pesos, and the very attractive Aussie Kangaroos). Aside for this I have a hoard of US and Canadian silver coins. I went to a dealer to pick out the goodies. So, when is it worth the time and effort to have the goodies graded? At the end of the post I have enclosed a few pictures.

One other thing, I noticed that most people don't get their coins graded (based on the unofficial survey). So, where are all these graded/slabed coins coming from? There must be a source. Any ideas? If people are buy slabed coins and yet few people are grading their coins then where is the supply?

Here are the picts (I am not a great with the camera)



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 Posted 04/01/2009  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those look like common date coins and the Air-Tites will do fine as holders. Slabbing is too costly and time consuming for coins valued under $100 IMHO.

Many dealers bulk submit coins for TPG/slabbing. There will never be a shortage of slabs around but many collectors never submit coins to TPG; even if they buy some slabbed coins.
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 Posted 04/02/2009  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum oppyusa. Bherring gave a great reply, and I will expand on it a bit.

Submittal of coins to the top tier graders typically costs money. Whether it be for the upfront "joining" cost with PCGS or NGC, or the grading fees and such with ANACS and ICG. Most people will get an approximate value of their coins to start with, and then determine if they want to submit. If a coin routinely sells for $15, why spend $30 for grading and shipping fees. The times you see low value coins in slabs are usually the result of the large volume dealers and or places like the Coin Vault on tv that get very big discounts due to the sheer number of coins they submit. Some coins take a pretty hefty jump from one grade to the next, so people will also speculate and hope for the high grade only to get a coin returned with a low value grade attached. Know your coins and the series you are submitting or you can easily fall into this category.

Another reason to submit is merely for authentication. Typically, if authentication is needed, it's probably a higher value coin to begin with, so the fees aren't as important.

So, people have been slabbing coins for a long time, so in essence the supply is already out there, and just being passed around. Add to that all of the new coins being slabbed, and it continues on. As for when, I agree with bherring as well with $100, although I think I would venture a little higher into the $200 range before I would submit unless I just need some "fillers" for the order.
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 Posted 04/03/2009  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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One other thing, I noticed that most people don't get their coins graded (based on the unofficial survey). So, where are all these graded/slabed coins coming from? There must be a source. Any ideas? If people are buy slabed coins and yet few people are grading their coins then where is the supply?

You must not be going to coin shows. From what I've seen at coin shows in the last few years is that about 50% of all coins are in slabs. I go to from 2 to 4 coin shows a month and I'm not a slab coin person so this is getting me irritated. Many people really like to know if a coin is real since all this stuff lately about China making so many coins so a slabbed anything is a little better chance that it is real.
I've seen coins that I thought should be in my pocket change in a slab already. There are people that would send in a coin worth $1 just to have it in a slab.
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 Posted 04/24/2009  05:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gmherps13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This sheds a lot of insight into the whole "should it be graded" paradigm. Great thread!!
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 Posted 05/08/2009  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skylerdmpl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My personal opinion:
A silver coin should graded and slabbed when:

a) coin is an early dollar as there are so many fakes and problem coins from this era
b) when value is potentially over $500 regardless of type***
c) when coin is proof-like (PL) or Deep-Mirror Proof-like (DMPL) even if "low" value coin
d) when coin is having a rare VAM that requires an experts validation
e) ?

Well, those are my 4 basic guidelines


***NOTE: the value amount on point b) may vary from person to person. Also, some people might say coins valued between a certain range, say $200-$499, would be candidates for ANACS while coins valued $500 or more would be candidates for PCGS (or NGC).

This is because ANACS has relatively cheap submission prices and lenient rules for submission compared to PCGS and NGC whilst still being considered top tier of the TPG's.


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05/08/2009 3:54 pm
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