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British Half Penny No Stop

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 Posted 10/07/2023  12:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Notatzaddik to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Rather new at half penny. I found a description that said the reverse was NO STOP. I am not sure what that means. My guess is a . after Rex? Thank you.
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 Posted 10/07/2023  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are various forms of "No Stop" half pennies, depending on the date. What year are/were you looking at?
Some relate to various locations of potential stops in the legend, either on the obverse or reverse. Some refer to a stop before or after the date. Most are 18th or 17th century when there was much more variation in the production of dies. Some are scarce, some "no stop"s more common than those with a stop, so the date is all important.
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 Posted 10/07/2023  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Notatzaddik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1731 NO REV STOP please.
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sorry please.
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No problem. In 1731 the usual and more common version has a stop after the NIA of Britannia on the reverse. The scarcer "no stop" version is missing this, about doubling the value in equivalent grades.
It is possible that an unscrupulous previous owner may have obliterated the stop to increase the value, so examine carefully.
Pictures would be nice!
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 Posted 10/07/2023  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a section of my 1731 halfpenny with stop to show you where it should be:

British-Half-Penny-No-Stop
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 Posted 10/07/2023  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Notatzaddik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much. I do not have one so I can't send a photo. I have the coin with the stop, I was just trying to figure out what to look for. Now I know!
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 Posted 10/07/2023  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Notatzaddik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, how would one learn this from the literature? Where would this be written about? It is possible I missed it in my two books, but what books would explain this term to a newbie?
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I have to agree the common literature is not helpful. "Coins of England" just states: "rev. no stop" without indicating where it should be.
I referred to my copy of "English Copper, Tin and Bronze coins in the British Museum" by C Wilson Peck - usually just called "Peck". In my 1970 edition on page 209 it tells us that "with stop" is #840 and without is #841. Again it just states "rev., no stop" but fortunately there is a Plate referred to, which confirms it is the stop after Britannia that is missing. (There is no other stop possible.)
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 Posted 10/07/2023  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Notatzaddik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oy! Thanks much I never would have figured it out. This forum is quite helpful!
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 Posted 10/07/2023  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Notatzaddik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I was wrong mine is no stop
Thanks again
I have trouble sending photos but it looks legit to me
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Good - well done! If you do get to send photos, that would be great.
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 Posted 10/08/2023  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Notatzaddik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

British-Half-Penny-No-Stop


Here is the photo
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 Posted 10/08/2023  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the picture.
I'm not sure some collectors would be happy with the "no stop" attribution. There is a significant circular mark exactly where the stop should be - possibly the result of it being worn away, although it could be some nefarious attempt to increase the rarity of the coin, or just a coincidence.
The books do not mention any other identifiers for the no stop variety, so in the end any collector has to make up their own mind.
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 Posted 10/08/2023  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Notatzaddik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I will look at it under different lights and magnifications. Either way it will keep me occupied . Thanks again!
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