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1799 Silver Dollar: Real Or Fake

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 Posted 10/11/2023  8:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RazorsEdge to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
New to the group and new to collecting. I ran across this coin but it doesn't look right. Is this a fake coin?

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 Posted 10/11/2023  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I ran across this coin but it doesn't look right


First welcome to CCF. Second, you are right that this does not look right. Compare the details of a real one in the link below to your coin.

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1799-1/6878

A good place to start your comparison would be on the shape of the numbers in the date.
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 Posted 10/11/2023  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is an obvious cast counterfeit. Sorry.
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 Posted 10/11/2023  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RazorsEdge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the info! I didn't notice the dates. I was fixated on the stars on my coin having 5 points while the others had six!

Thanks again and thanks for the welcome. I have a few more coins to go thru so I'm sure I'll be posting others.
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 Posted 10/11/2023  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF! I agree that it's a fake.
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 Posted 10/12/2023  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RazorsEdge,
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I agree it is a cast fake.Hope you plan on sticking around and learning a ton of stuff here on CCF.
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 Posted 10/12/2023  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Date logo is a quick giveaway.



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Good eye on the reverse stars that only have 5 points. I didn't notice that, but I didn't look very hard because it's so obviously fake.
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Thanks again for the welcome.

@John1, I do plan on sticking around. I have quite a few other coins that I need to go through. I just noticed the search on this forum. I should have used that feature first, would have probably answered my question.

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Except for flat surfaces, not one thing on this fake match a genuine coin.
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That eagle's head looks like a cartoon chicken.
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At least it's more peaceful. Arrows have been replaced with blades of grass, blowing in the gentle breeze.

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RE: Arrows. I don't know how much to write off to wear and tear. My mind thinks tips could be missing because of wear?!?! Same thing with the chicken head. Is the lower jaw portion just rubbed off? I'm looking at a 1836 fifty cent peace that has alot of wear and tear. I'm pretty sure it's also a fake but I'm trying to identify all the issues before I post. After that, I'll start on a 1801 silver dollar.

I do appreciate the comments and feedback. Helps me focus on the others better.
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@raz, yes these sorts of discussions should help you better appreciate the difference between normal circulation wear and missing/inconsistent design elements.
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