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Can Expert Confirm That This Coin Is Uncleaned?

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 Posted 04/04/2009  12:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SilverMaple to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can-Expert-Confirm-That-This-Coin-Is-Uncleaned?


even its a MS 62 I want to be sure that this coin is uncleaned.

thanks all.
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 Posted 04/04/2009  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is virtually impossible to tell with 100% certainty whether a coin has been cleaned or not strictly through a photograph. That coins is certified and sealed by ICCS, isn't it? If ICCS doesn't think a coin is cleaned, I would be inclined to trust their judgement.
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 Posted 04/04/2009  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FrostCross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was cleaned I wonder if it would be mentioned on the grading certificate as so.
I'm too new to the hobby to tell...Looks nice though!
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 Posted 04/04/2009  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When a coin is referred to as cleaned, it means its surface has been damaged in some way. A cleaned silver coin usually has a loss of luster or is heavily scratched with hairline scratches. But a dipped silver coin usually is not referred to as cleaned unless it has been excessively dipped. Removing dirt and grime from a coin is not considered "cleaning" in the sense that the coin has been damaged; although cleaned of dirt and grime. And in fact it is a good idea to remove dirt and grime from a coin (without damaging it) to prevent corrosion that sets in over several decades.
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 Posted 04/04/2009  05:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, SilverMaple, If the coin in question had been cleaned, the grading company would have had "CLEANED" on the certificate.
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If ICCS says it's been cleaned, then it has ... if the card doesn't say "Cleaned" then you're home free.
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Hmm, I see that's an ebay photo though ... is that a coin you're thinking of buying and have doubts as to whether it's cleaned? Ask the seller if it's marked "cleaned" or not. Then make certain you're buying from a seller with a good reputation/feedback.
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 Posted 04/04/2009  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this the auction?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1935-CANADA-SIL...62_W0QQitemZ320354495605QQihZ011QQcategoryZ3383QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The seller's feedback is good (other than the high shipping costs) and he's sold a lot of ICCS coins, but just send him a question asking if it is marked "cleaned" to ease your mind.
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 Posted 04/04/2009  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know what? I never initially thought that ICCS would have put a 'cleaned' indicator on the COA..thats a very good point.
However when I 1st looked at it, my initial thought was no, it has not cleaned.
The reason I thought so was, I've seen dipped coins where the entire coin has taken on a 'ghosty-white' appearance, and this doesn't seem to have that characteristic. (I hope this makes sence to everyone).
I then thought if it was polished then it would be so shiny that it would burn your retinas out.
Its just that the haze on it looks very natural.
On another note, its not hard to find a 1935 in MS condition for a reasonable price, so that was another indicator as well.
Im not a big time grader in the least, so in conclusion I suppose I still could have been wrong.
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When ICCS puts "Cleaned" on their COAs it is right in the spot on the card that is covered by the top of the dollar, so I can understand getting confirmation that the designation isn't there.
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 Posted 04/04/2009  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverMaple to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I'm looking for this year , I found this one too... have a look at it and tel me if its better to have this MS64 instead of the ms62 I posted earlier.
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 Posted 04/04/2009  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverMaple to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh and thanks for your answer , I was wondering if the certification service would mention if the coin is cleaned or not...
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