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Confirming This Penny Is 1859 Narrow/Low 9

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 Posted 11/04/2023  12:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Double J to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I guess maybe grade VG? If the obverse is too blurry don't worry, really just want to make sure I have the right variety.





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 Posted 11/04/2023  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fuzzy, you are correct! Variety......no idea. LOL Grade is a bunch higher than VG!
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 Posted 11/04/2023  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi
Need clear photo's of both sides then we can tell you what variety it may be.------(approx 300 different)
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 Posted 11/04/2023  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the 9 may be R/P'd, but hard to tell. Yes, it's a narrow 9, but it's VF-20 at least
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 Posted 11/05/2023  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double J to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, round 2. I don't think there is any doubling on anything.






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Hi
Your coin is obv23--rev25b
https://www.vickycents.com/rev-e25b.html
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 Posted 11/06/2023  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double J to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate that detailed information. I found it hard to read. Is there not a coins and Canada reference that's a bit simpler for me?
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 Posted 11/06/2023  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I stated above, it IS a narrow 9 and, if you wish, call it a "low 9" as well. However, since the 9 was hand punched into each die, there are high, low, near, far, canted right or left, etc, and any combination of them all. The question is "how low is the 9 actually" and there may be 7-8 low 9 dies and none of them alike. Any designation of a "low 9" is a misnomer at best.

If you want to see what specifci variety it is, of the 200+ narrow 9 varieties, then go to the Haxby site. Find an anomoly on the Obverse or Reverse, except for the vine breaks at 7 & 13 (ALL 1859's have breaks there) and start the "ID my coin section of the Haxby site. Try the D/C at 14 and/or the stem breaks at 6 & 13.
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Ok, thanks. I try to keep it semi simple for my own collection purposed...kind of a blend between just having one from each year and not 200 of the same year. I usually just use coins and canada for that with some exceptions ie 1936 dot penny...pretty confident I don't need to leave space for a 2 x 2 for that one. But I see your point re the 9. Didn't know that was literally just punched on every coin manually.
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They weren't handpunched onto each "coin". Each Reverse "die" was handpunched, so there could have been 1000 to 40,000 struck with that die.
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Ok, I misread what you said earlier, thought you said each coin but I see now you said onto each die. But still 200+ varieties is a bit much for me. Unless I misread that too. lol
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 Posted 11/09/2023  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, well over 200 varieties or variety pairs, but some are "vanilla" and hard to see and add no value whatsoever. Those with repunched digits or lettters are the ones that folks go after. You still have a nice example of a 9 not normal and many D/C's.
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