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According to Wexler, "Starting with the Lincoln cents in 1909, the last two digits of the date were engraved into the master die for each year." So it is impossible that a date digit could be punched over a mint mark. I suspect Pareidolia. |
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 As far as I know, there is no such thing as a 4 over S, unless it is a genuine dropped device which is not too likely. We of course are going to need pictures to confirm what you are seeing, and to see what the date is. Then there is something called paridolia which is seeing something that is not there, and happens to all of us at certain times...  |
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Please, post some full, large and sharp pics of the obverse and reverse. Thanks.
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There are some D over S mint marks (OMM)... what year are you referring to?
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11/08/2023 12:55 pm
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I noticed some 1944's had the 1st 4 particularly close to the S and a lot of ebay listings call that a "4 over S". Y'alls lack of excitement is leading me to think it's just die positioning and super common.  |
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to the CCF The mint mark was hand punched into the die before 1989. You will find the MM in any position on coins before 89. The rule back then was as long as it was below the date and to the right of the lapel. As for ebays 4 over S, that's an ebay made up error to separate people that don't know what they are buying, and their money. ebay is not the place to learn what an error or variety is. This is the site for that. Edited by Cujohn
11/08/2023 5:23 pm
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In that period the MM was punch by hand. So the position and orientation can be different from coin to other.
As Cujohn mentioned, 4 over S do not exist and it is just a e-Bay scam of the hundreds of scammers junk people there.
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Don't think a 4 over S is possible, but in order to be certain, please pose up a better closeup of the date and MM area - in good focus please. |
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What is a 4 over S? Are you talking about the MM position? to the CCF! |
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Yup, 9 of them on ebay searching on "4 over S." Where do they come up with this stuff? It keeps getting wackier and wackier. |
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to the CCF "4 over S" is just an ebay scam to separate coin novices from their money. Come here for real knowledge. Edited by nickelsearcher
11/09/2023 05:56 am
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@Dude: I will explain you the non-sense and the aberation of the "4 over the S"
You to understand that first the Die it is squeze and the the S was hand punch. The 4 was there when S was punch.
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That's what I figured. But I always come here to make sure, because Google seems to be equally as unreliable as ebay. Thank you all for your answers! |
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