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I haven't really delved into German medieval coins too deeply yet, but I do have some pieces to work on identifying. What are some good books on identification to add to my library? One of the reasons I haven't got into it too much yet is that I know that Germany's fractured history could make this quite difficult. I guess now I just feel like it's finally time to quit putting it off and take that first leap!

Right now I have some small crude pfennigs to identify as well as others between 1000 to around 15th century. Any and all material suggestions are welcomed and appreciated!
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@chir, as you readily acknowledge the history of German in the middle ages is fractured, well so is the literature. You can get the Krause book which covers all of Germany in the 1500s. Prior to the 16th Century, you are going to need to build your library region by region and city state by city state. If you know of the correct city state for the majority of your coins, we can help by specifying which refs might be most useful. For coins that you have no idea at all, please post them in separate threads and we can try to help out with an identification.
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For general references:
- DeWit auction #2 (Kunker 130)
- Davenport for talers
- Craig's Germanic Coinages Charlemagne through Wilhelm II William
- Schulten's Deutsche Munzen Aus Der Zeit Karls V

Mehner's Grossvs March Misnensis is the newest German reference I have -- it's a fantastic work on later groshen-size coins.

Spence is right in that you're really going to have to go by region/period for the majority of it.
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 Posted 11/22/2023  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For most of the more difficult to identify German/Austrian/Swiss/etc. coinage prior to the 17th c. I rely on auction catalogues (Verkaufskataloge) and photographed collections (Sammlungen)

There is a lot of research involved. I usually start with Künker sale catalogues as they tend to be well documented and photographed, also Stephen Album, Mozelt Numismatik, etc.

Samoth offers up an excellent starting point, but it's a highly specialized area of collecting, and what material exists is going to reflect that; thanks for letting me know about Mehner for Meißner Groschen!

I would love to have something like a Spinks book for pre-17th c. German coinage but it would be many, many volumes and probably need a truck to deliver it, as well as needing a very large amount of shelf space and sturdy shelving, given the vast amount of coins struck and the equally vast amount of states, bishoprics, kingdoms, margraviates, duchies, etc. that struck said coins.



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Full disclosure: I don't have any paper references for Germany, other than Lorraine (which Krause considers a German State, but nobody else does).

Online references:
- Dannenberg for 11th century (which Spence and I are getting to know). Not at all user friendly

- DeWit collection catalog (Kunker) mentioned by samoth is helpful, especially for western principalities. I use the WCN archive (Warszawskie Centrum Numizmatyczne) for eastern principalities (Pomerania, Saxony, SIlesia) but if you don't search with Polish terms it's hit-or-miss

- On Numista, You can look under Holy Roman Empire for 11th-12th century coins, then there is fairly broad coverage of "German States" but not as thorough as any of the specialty catalogs that have been mentioned. But it's in English, which is a plus.

When you get stuck, you can also post things here (I know ... that's not what you want )
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I can't say I'm surprised by the replies, clearly this is an area of collecting not for the faint of heart! I appreciate all the tips, I'll start looking into these references.
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You can also go to a site like acsearch or numista, look up coins from, say, Bavaria, Brunswick, Cologne, Hamburg, and see which references are used most often.

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