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1941 S/S Lincoln Wheat Cent - RPM-001

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So here is your Lincoln Cent variety trivial fact for the day. Of the 11 RPMs listed by VarietyVista for 1941-S, 10 of them are on the more rare large S mint mark. So while the large S mint mark is more rare, you are more likely to find a variety if that's what you have (DDO-001 is also on a large mint mark die). But then there is the lone small mint mark RPM, good ol' RPM-001.

This is a fairly easy to see RPM to the west. I found this one in an album of BU Lincoln cents and it jumped right out. But also pretty easy to see on most circulated coins as well.

I wasn't going to post this one as it's just another minor RPM, but then I saw that strong MD on the date and mint mark. I don't know if it will truly help, but at least here you can get a nice look at the RPM next to some MD for comparison. As with doubled dies, the RPM goes outside of plane of the devices, while the MD just reduces them. And finally, since the MD here can be classified as slide doubling, you see the striations that run parallel to the direction of travel for the MD, while the RPM has no such things. And okay, one final thing. Notice the notch between the primary and secondary S's in the lower left. MD just blurs from corner to corner. I use this last characteristic all the time to separate out MD from doubled dies.



1941-S/S Lincoln Wheat cent - RPM-001


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1941-S/S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---RPM-001
1941-S/S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---RPM-001
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Nice RPM tropicalbats! That coin is a beauty.
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Very nice example.
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That mint mark area is a little messy do to RPM and MD thanks for educating me and defining the differences it does help .
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Very interesting info, thanks... and congrats on the find
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Thank you for sharing coin and information
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Such a subtle distinction, but I see what you have explained very well. Thank you. You're posts are always educational and well done.
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Again and again you keep me learning. Thanks, and that is a good looking coin.
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Beautiful coin to boot. Happy T-Day!
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This is a excellent example showing MD on the date an MM, but it isn't on the secondary MM.

Thanks for going into detail to describe to newer members what to look for.
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Thanks all! Hope everyone had a spiffy fine Thanksgiving. Yes, as noted in the description it's slide doubling (MD) with an RPM to the west. I would have to look at some of my other examples of this RPM, but I think a lot of these have the MD on the mint mark. I've always wondered if the MD could be on the die.
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Nice coin!
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Thanks for the trivia and lesson. Photos always top quality. Cheers and Happy Thanksgiving.
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Very cool example of more than one thing happening!


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I've always wondered if the MD could be on the die.


I've never thought about this being a possibility but wouldn't that make it a doubled die?

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After thinking about this, I don't think this would be possible, as we are missing the third product that allows there to be Machine Doubling, the planchet that moves during striking.

When making the die, it is just the hub striking the die and a doubled die is created when they are misaligned. You made me think about it though.
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