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1946 D Jefferson Nickel. Almost A Clip?

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 Posted 11/27/2023  11:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
. What do you think this is?

Sorry I didn't know how to ask any other way.

Few extra pictures. Wanted to show the edge.

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The metal has been moved and piled so I'm going with PMD here. Interesting look though.
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I'm going with PMD.
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Agree, but certainly ususual!
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My initial thought was damage as I don't see how this could have happened during the striking process. With that said, I agree with the frog that I don't recall seeing this sort of thing before, where a rim bruise only affects one half of the thickness of a coin. I'm also struggling a bit with the seemingly intact rim in this area.
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very unusual. almost like the rim is there, but if it were crimped, then it makes sense. This is just intentional damage.
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I'm also struggling a bit with the seemingly intact rim in this area.

Yeah, that's what I'm stuck on, too. If the front and back of the coin were crushed inwards, then why does the metal underneath have any rim structure whatsoever? Maybe that could happen as a type of repeated circulation wear being inserted into coin slots for 77 years, but it sure seems odd.

I think we need better angled pictures of the edge, and also how the lettering approaches the edge.

I'm almost wondering if this was a flawed planchet with thin metal in that section, that then got some rim formation in the upset mill. I can see that the rim on the back directly across from the anomaly also looks unusual.

Alternately, maybe it's just that the internal metal was compressed by the upset mill, and circulation wear has made the different metal reappear, somewhat like Nic-A-Date on Buffalo nickels.

Lots of possibilities, above my pay grade.
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Has to be PMD. The collar wouldn't let the metal pooch out like that. Maybe a smooth jaw vise.
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Still can't imagiine this happening at the miint.
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Here angle 3D pics:

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Could it have been crushed vertically without deforming the circular shape?
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I think the clue may be in the center of the coin, there is damage, dead center of both sides. Maybe force into a penny bubblegum machine?

Very nice job on the pics, Rob.
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Rob, lay a cent on top of the nickel, centered and see how close it aligns with the damaged sides.
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