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Difference Between Burnished And Satin ASE?

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It has been awhile since I've collected Silver Eagles.

What is the difference between Burnished finish or a Satin finish?

Is this an example of Burnished?

Difference-Between-Burnished-And-Satin-ASE?

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From a Great Collections article:
"Satin Finish, Burnished Coins and Specimen Grades...
PCGS, NGC and ANACS refer to these coins as Satin Finish, Burnished and/or Specimens - they have changed over the years, however, they are all interchangeable.

PCGS recently changed (in the past few years) to calling all of these types of coins Specimen (ie. PCGS SP-70), as opposed to SMS MS-70."

Also from a quick internet search, several sites/articles indicate that the terms Satin Finish and Burnished are interchangeable, and that the U.S Mint does not use these terms.

So, I don't really know the exact answer to your question, but I would tend to lean toward those two terms having the same meaning.

It also appears to my old eyes that the coin you posted does appear to have an almost satiny matte appearance and having the "W" Mint mark makes me think it could be an uncirculated collectors' piece (satin, burnished, specimen).

Perhaps other more experienced and knowledgeable folks here will have a better answer for you.

Nice coin!
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Thanks, that is very helpful!

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This was the most informative link I was able to find.

https://silvereagleguide.com/2007-silver-eagle/

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Never heard of a 'satin finish' to include the ASE's Proof, reverse proof, Burnished (uncirculated), and Bullion.
I thought that the 'satin finish' was limited to denominations from 1 cent to the small dollar coins from 2005 to 2010.
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Uncirculated Finishes ...................Mint Marked Collector's Coins.....
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The Mint terminology for the 3 annually released coins are bullion, Uncirculated, and proof.
The bullion and Uncirculated are similar in appearance.
The bullion, first of all, carry no mint mark. They are also not sold directly to the public. They are sold in what is referred to as monster boxes, and from the mint, they are sold to authorized purchasers, not the public directly.
The Uncirculated appear very similar to bullion, but do have a mint mark. They are sold to the public individually.
As far as "satin", the bullion and Uncirculated could both be described as satin.
The proof is usually referred to as a mirror finish. The proof ASEs also have a mint mark and are sold to the public.
Hope this helps clear it up for you.
Oh and Uncirculated ASEs are often referred to as burnished.
Bullion, in addition to being called bullion, are also referred to commonly as "business strike".
So the bullion and Uncirculated aka burnished have a satin finish, the proof ASEs are mirror finish, again this is all very generic and could apply to any coin.
The ASE shown is a 2007W Uncirculated, which was the second year Uncirculated ASE.
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Lets try to avoid using the term satin for these coins - it just gets confusing.

Here is some info on Burnishing: By Michael G. Fahey
Special to Coin World
https://mikebyers.com/coinworld061801.html

The first problem is with the term "burnished." Most numismatists employ this term when referring to a coin that has been artificially enhanced by polishing or treating the surfaces. Early copper enthusiasts are most familiar with the term "burnished," as it refers to the thousands of U.S. large cents and Half Cents that have been worked on to remove surface corrosion, hide defects or enhance the appearance of a "problem" copper piece.

However, the U.S. Mint uses the term "burnished" in a much different context. All burnishing that took place during the manufacture of the Goodacre pieces occurred to the blank planchets. To the Mint, "burnishing" means that the unstruck planchets were placed into a drum containing tiny metal pellets along with a liquid medium. This entire mixture was then tumbled. The blank planchets were scoured of any surface contaminants during this operation. They were also thoroughly pockmarked by the rough contact with the tiny metal "BB's" being used. This type of roughened surface increases metal flow during the striking operation, producing a better-finished product.
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