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Valued Member
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Looked through some coins today and discovered Lincoln sporting a Mohawk. This poor coin is not in the best of shape, however, its an instant hit at my house.  BTW, is this what is referred to as a Cud? The photos I've seen of Cud errors have a similarity but don't quite look like this. Maybe it's a badly damaged die? Let me know what you think. |
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The majority of your coin is post mint damage. As far as the "mohawk", possibly a broken die.
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Valued Member
 United States
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very true, there is a lot of post mint damage. I may need to get some better photos. The line in front of his nose as well as the the damage over "Trust" and covering the head are all raised places in the metal. I imagine that the the condition of the coin at the time it was minted has contributed a great deal to the the shape it is in now.
Should I add more photos?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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HAHAHAHAHA....funny coin!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like glue or fingernail polish on it. Add more photos? I've seen all I need to see.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Definitely not a Cud, a Cud is a major die break/failure that affect the shank and face of a die and emanates from the rim of the coin. Anything on the interior would be a die break. however, I do not think this is a die break either. I am pretty sure coop is on the right path with the glue comment and the rest of the coin is just zinc rot and abrasion damage. Soak it in water a bit and then scrape at it with a fingernail- that should confirm the glue theory. |
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ok, I've soaked Mohawk Lincoln in acetone for two days. The results..nothing changed. Still have the mohawk look, still has the other raised places on the coin. I've gone through two boxes since then and have another interesting coin with some odd stuff. I found one, much less damaged, that seems to be struck all over with "D" mintmarks. It looks like there are mint marks randomly all over the coin. I left the coin at work, so I'll add pics in its own thread in a day or two.
Back to Mohawk Lincoln. Since I've soaked it in acetone for two days and nothing changed, is there a chance that this might be the worst case of die damage ever? I know it looks ridiculous. But it really is what you see, that's raised metal, not nail polish.
Now I understand that Zinc coins corrode very quickly and badly, so my question is this.....can zinc corrosion make a coin look like this? What kind of effect does Zinc corrosion create? I've seen some nasty looking zinc Lincoln cents, but most of the damage I've seen is pitting and rot. If zinc rot creates raised places, then I may still have something to learn about the life of these coins.
Pardon my inexperience. I'm just seeking to be better informed in this sort of thing. I highly value the feedback I get from the members of this site and you are all greatly appreciated for your knowledge. Its an invaluable resource for me. I'm new to this, and I have much to learn. I'm also very optimistic about my finds as well, and I need a site like this to keep me on the "straight and narrow" of coin collecting. The experience of the members here provide me, as a newbie to numismatics, solid and true information to go by.
I'm not trying to sell coins, I usually am the buyer. I have no agenda, other than collecting coins for myself...which isn't even the truth. I collect them for my children in hopes that they will someday appreciate the love of coin collecting.
And to think this all started with me wanting to hoard silver.........................
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hi Chadwick,
You might want to try soaking in plain old water. I suspect it is elmer's glue and that is water soluble so acetone won't do much to it. If it was die damage, there should be cracks emanating from that area and I see nothing like that. The areas are also suspiciously smooth, it should be much more jagged and irregular shaped if it was die damage. The area next to the date on the rim is the zinc damage- part of the rim is missing due to corrosion. Zinc rot starts out as small bubbles in the plating, the bubbles raise, and then they finally collapse and the copper plating is breached thus exposing the zinc core. What you see as D mintmarks all over a coin is an impossibility, you are more than likely seeing these craters and deformations from zinc rot.
Edited by biokemist6
04/14/2009 11:21 am
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Valued Member
United States
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If the substance isn't removed by water then I'm willing to bet someone applied heat to this coin and caused the bubbling effect. Either way, it's after Mint damage and not a error, sorry. ~ Jim
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A chisel will remove it. Post mint damage.
Edited by rockdude
04/15/2009 10:57 am
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Wow!
that one tortured coin & I agree with Coop
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Belt sander would work also!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hey coop, still windy in AZ?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Dude: Real bad today. The allergies are hitting me hard today!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Windy here in Lake County also. I live on Clear Lake in Ca. in Lakeport.
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