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This one was spotted by another CCF member who let he have a go at it. Got it for $30 so not cheap but given the better grade and Cud it should end up being a good investment. I've just sent images to JC for possible listing on cuds-on-coins and this should be the first known Cud for this date. And before folks ask, I actually don't know how to correctly describe the rim by LIBERTY. Maybe JC could jump in here and explain how areas like that form. Also note there is a little bit of weakness on the obverse rim opposite the Cud. 1918-D Lincoln Wheat cent mint error - rim Cud   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nice Rim Cud! Man, that reverse die is looking pretty tired. Errers and Varietys.
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 United States
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Yes I struggle to differentiate a rolled over Rim Fin from a Cud like this. Looking forward to a robust discussion on this one! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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Have you checked the diameter and the edge of the coin? Any chance it was struck in a wide collar and did not strike up the rim correctly?
-makecents-
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Choice EF obverse but talk about a worn die on the reverse!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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When I saw the obv I said wow nice coin , but then went to the rev and wow again what a difference but nice little Cud. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks folks! Yes, the dies can be pretty old on some of coins from the early years. But it's a solid AU coin obverse and reverse, although there are a few light scratches and surface corrosion spots that could details grade it. My overall guess is a straight grade AU53, but we shall find out since it'll be going to ANACS.
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nice reverse Cud, Can you explain what is up with the rim on the obverse please? |
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Quote:nice reverse Cud, Can you explain what is up with the rim on the obverse please? I took a stab at that and got nothing, although I did not spell it out. My bad.... -makecents-
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I was thinking similar thoughts as makecents pointed out. The parameter as a whole seems odd. Maybe my eyes playing tricks, but the edge thickness seems to waver a bit in and out of design specs. Thanks, Doug.
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My thought was a worn out flattened reverse die allowing a bit more space between the finish of the strike and the planchet combined with that reverse die being slightly misaligned away from the area in question could equal a potential lighter pressure to fill the obverse at the anomaly.
Given that the obverse die is fresh with nice deep gutters for the rim , a planchet with a bit of metal missing from a lam or dropped out ,rolled in debris in that spot , would probably strike up looking like this anomaly.
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Sorry I forgot to respond to the diameter request. It is 19.15mm in both the E/W and N/S directions. The edge is 1.59mm at the L dropping to 1.525mm north of that. Random sampling of the edge across the coin gives 1.525-1.54mm reading. I've just seen this same kind of thing quite often, usually on cents from the 1980's, and figured it was an easily explainable thing once you know what it is. But as noted, I do not know what it is. I should add that at the Cud it is 1.62mm. Edited by tropicalbats
01/20/2024 09:50 am
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Thank you, sir! Yeah, it's just really odd looking and thought it might even be slightly out of round. I think a lot of what I'm seeing is just an illusion. I did not think about it, but you are right about a lot of the 80's coins striking up similar to what you have going on with the obverse. Is that nothing out of the ordinary to be slightly wider?
-makecents-
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I like your take on it John.  -makecents-
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Fantastic grab!  |
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