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OGP Changes 2021-2024 ASE

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 Posted 01/20/2024  9:56 pm Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Gilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

Well leave it up to "Mr OGP" to get his new 2024W and immediately start geeking out over the new OGP and then start comparing to prior years.
Here we go. I'll go back to 2021 type 1.
We should all be pretty familiar with the earlier OGP of the type 1.
The sleeve with no clamshell started with the type 2 of course.
So fast forward to now, it's an added piece in that we now have the clamshell, plus the outer box now has the sleeve around it. The OGP box and lid your notice changed from dark blue to black with the type 2.
A note about the clamshell, I find the dimensions really so close between the type 1 and the 2024. I, like a lot of people, thought the 2024 clamshell is thinner than the type 1, but really it looks and feels so much like the type 1, same quality and dimensions, just no flocking.
My nitpick is I don't like the eagle in the inside of the lid, it doesn't really mimic the eagle on the reverse of the coin all that closely. If it did I'd be more on board. As it stands, I'd be happier with the Treasury seal instead.
So concentrating on the type 2 OGP:
The 2021 type 2 and the 2022 look identical, with the type 2 reverse design and also have the year printed on the sleeve on the top and sides with the product codes on the back.
2023 they went with the obverse design with a silver square background, the year is also on all sides.
The box lid on all 3 of these first type 2 years have the black glossy Treasury seal and US Mint lettering on the lid.
The outer box and lid are all identical dimensions, even back to the type 1, the type 2 difference being it just has the insert for the capsule inside, instead of the clamshell.
So 2024 is different again from the 2023. It has the similar design on the box, except instead of the solid silver square, it has an outline box. On the edges, it is different in that it calls out the mint, "West Point", in prior years it did not. I believe this may be the first time they have put the mint designation on the out box of a regular issue.
Also different than the last 3 years is the gloss black Treasury seal and lettering is now silver. I'd call it a welcome change, or lets just say I like that better.
Again the clamshell is pretty plain compared to the old type 1s.
On the COAs, I have a pic of all the type 2 COAs so far, or at least the W mints.
The 2021 type 2 to my eye looks a bit darker tone than the rest. Or it could be that the 2022 is lighter than the other 3. In general, other than the different years, they all look pretty close. But leave it to me to spot one difference. The 2021 shows the year on the coin image. The other 3 have a blank area where the year should be!
Well I'll get this stuff all packed away again.

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 Posted 01/21/2024  10:14 am  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The vinyl of the clamshell really doesn't bother me. It's sort of like "fake finished leather" vs fake suede leather.
It's not like they used to whittle them out of solid oak, they were pretty much the same. Fake. Imitation, if that sounds better.
I do think it looked better with the adornment on it like the Treasury seal eagle on the last type 1.
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 Posted 01/21/2024  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gilly,


Your OGP topic is Very Interesting, People would care less about the OGP, IF they were and are Slab Collectors. The OGP Series collectors are We, People free to collect as they wish. I have collected slabs, BUT I bought them for The Coin inside.

IMO, The All Original American Silver Eagles Series, from the U S Mints, in All their Glory, will be a Thing of the Past, Harder to locate than ANY slab, Harder to Find, Simply because the Originally Distributed Coins and their packaging are Limited, where as Slabs, Are Labels waiting for a Coin. I am NOT knocking anyone, or their collecting Interests, Just making a Factual Statement. Imagine ALL the Original Proof sets, from the Mints were ALL taken out of Their OGP.g and slabbed, The Original Sets would Become Obsolete.....
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 Posted 01/21/2024  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can understand wanting the grade, and the slabs are easier to store.
It just strikes me like sports card collecting. But the cards don't have any real "OGP", but they try mimicking card collections using coins, is the best way I can put it.
To me it detracts a lot and would rather see them how they came from the mint. It doesn't matter to me what they may grade at, as long as the eye appeal is good. But people can do what they want with their collection.
It really bothers me to see multi coin sets broken up. Individual coins not as much, bullion not at all, didn't bother me in the least as they never had OGP to begin with.
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 Posted 02/01/2024  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Erscolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have collected nearly all of the non-bullion issues from 1986 on now to 2024. I was pleasantly surprised to see the clam shell type packing for 2024, a definite improvement over the 2021-2023 packaging. I store mine in those black mint set storage boxes, and am now on box 5, with a couple of other boxes for those larger set offerings from the mint. One more uncirculated and one more proof coin to go for 2024. I did buy three slabbed examples, one for 2009 since that is all there was that year, and one of each of the two designs in 2021 just to see what the fuss over MS70 was all about.
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