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Counterfeit? 1875 S Trade Dollar / Ebay

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 Posted 01/24/2024  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the pass as the coin does not have original surfaces. It looks like someone took a Q Tip with a cleaner like MS70 and cleaned around the stars and the rest of the coin. The date and mint mark are spot on for a known genuine die pair. If you look at the magnified ebay listing, you can also see the raised bump on the L in Dollar. On Trade dollars the hardest areas to duplicate are the denticles as most genuine Trade dollars have full denticles. The OP coin has solid denticles.
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cant comment on counterfeit however if it is genuine I'm in the box that the coin was moderately cleaned. I don't collect these not do I own one but I'm not a fan of chop marks. I know there are collectors that do. I guess my take is if you are buying a Trade dollar for a type set i'd want the best available straight graded coin I could find since I'm only buying one.
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100% cleaned. No reason to purchase this coin; wait for a nicer example.
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@panzaldi ..."I'm not a fan of chop marks" ...

...I've argued that chopmarks affect the 'grade' of a coin, as I had seen a chopped Trade dollar with a PCGS grade of MS 61 (the specific dollar shown below) ... (how in the heck?...the MINT didn't chop that dollar...!))
..that being said, Trade dollars were made to compete (primarily) in the Asian market with Spanish 8 reales, which were the world-wide currency of choice. Chopped dollars have a historical significance, as the chops are evidence of their travels in commerce ... hence my interest ...
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from what I've seen NGC details chopped coins. PCGS gives them a pass in some cases. not sure what their criteria is for that


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i totally agree and not only that imo its PMD. from a historical standpoint I can see why some folks would acquire one. there are decent looking ones and there are ugly ones
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