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https://www.ebay.com/itm/145569939737? At first I looked at the position of the star below the hair curl and it didn't match the PCGS example. Searching the varieties it looks like it may be a match to BB-27.Any experts care to weigh in on this? Is it genuine or counterfeit?
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I have a PCGS cleaned BB-27 at a similar VF grade. Comparing the ebay coin with mine side by side, the biggest apparent difference is the weakness of the lettering in STATES and AMERICA on the ebay coin. While my coin has a few spots of heavy rim wear the adjacent lettering is plain and distinct. Beyond that the ebay coin has the familiar grey metal look, which is quite different from mine. The same seller also has an 1859-O dollar with similar appearance. No returns seems pretty shady for coins of this value too. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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01/23/2024 8:16 pm
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The coin looks genuine, but it has some issues. There are heavy adjustment marks around around about half the rim, cleaned, washed out look, scratched, and damage on eagle's breast. You may want to consider waiting for a better example.
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Seller does not accept returns. All I need to know.
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As a $3k+ coin I wouldn't touch it without reliable authentication. There hasn't been feedback in over a year and it's all as a buyer, so I suspect a hijacked account.
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I have it at BB-27, B-5 R-1. Not a terrible looking coin, although a little bright for my personal taste. Decent detail and the damage is not too severe, despite it being impossible to straight grade. I would buy this item despite the no return policy if the price is right.
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Before anyone buys this, ask the seller to give you a weight. The even white metal color, and the uniform grey shading around the features, of this and the similar 1859-O Seated dollar the seller is offering is disturbing. If the seller refuses to weigh the coin, walk away. The heavy face nicks have the same shading as the shading in the hair and face details - as if the coin was intentionally colored. The dark "pencil" outlining around the nose and neck are peculiar to say the least, along with similar "pencil" marks in the field above the date. The seller's other coin has similar "pencil" outlining around the eagle's head and wings on the reverse. https://www.ebay.com/itm/145569971159 "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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01/24/2024 1:56 pm
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Simple test.
Take $3k or so in $100 bills and toss it into the nearest fireplace.
If this doesn't inconvenience you in the slightest, by all means spend your money on a questionable coin from a questionable seller.
If, on the other hand, it would be problematic for you financially to toss away $3k to burn up in a fire, then save your money for a reputable coin from a reputable seller.
Genuine examples are much too valuable to gamble on unless you're rich enough that you don't care if you lose your money.
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$766 already.
SMH
Paralyse, congrats on 11,000!
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Thanks!
I suppose I really need to do a contest!
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Simple test.
Take $3k or so in $100 bills and toss it into the nearest fireplace.
If this doesn't inconvenience you in the slightest, by all means spend your money on a questionable coin from a questionable seller.
If, on the other hand, it would be problematic for you financially to toss away $3k to burn up in a fire, then save your money for a reputable coin from a reputable seller.
Genuine examples are much too valuable to gamble on unless you're rich enough that you don't care if you lose your money. You are assuming anyone who bids on this item is paying full price. There is risk and reward that needs to be calculated before one makes any purchase. If this coin was a buy it now for $100, I am sure many people would take the chance. Keeping the retail value of $3,000, I think paying $1,800 would be a good profit return considering the (in my mind--small) risk with this item. Some would pay more, some would pay less. It is like calculating "pot odds" if you are familiar with poker. Basic risk/reward.
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It is like calculating "pot odds" if you are familiar with poker. Basic risk/reward. I am not drawing to a one outer. The coin has too many issues and questionable seller. I would fold.
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It's up to $987. I don't treat coin collecting like Vegas, but I guess some do. I can buy a lot of nice coins from known entities for $1800 instead of flushing it down the toilet on the chance I'd make $1200.
I asked the seller for the weight and an image of the edge lettering. We'll see.
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I am not drawing to a one outer. The coin has too many issues and questionable seller. I would fold. Except poker is not all about math and calculations, you need to adequately read your opponent.  Your Ace high may be good! That is where subjectivity comes in. I've seen many sellers do this with nice coins so I am comfortable calling the large bet. Comes down to personal experience. Up to $1,275 so there is no way I'll end up in this cooler myself. 
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Much like many other things in life, you have to risk big to win big. It's just a matter of how much risk you're comfortable with. If you think you've got your opponent's tells down and have a comfortable chip count, maybe you call or raise to play hands you'd normally fold.
I'm quite a bit older than I was when I first started collecting and my risk tolerance isn't very high anymore. I'm not likely to win big, but I'm not going to lose big either.
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