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Your Thoughts On This 1909-S VDB Lincoln

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Hard to grade from juiced photos.
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I'm no coin grader, but this example looks impossible even compared to any other high grade 1909's.
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I Too, find this coin interesting,

I Like the Strike, from what I see. I also would like to have the coin in hand.

I am asking, Did You try a Pure Acetone Bath, Without the Coin in hand, I too can Not discern what I am seeing...


PS, I Also collect The Lincoln Cents, My Few 1909-S - VDB Cents are ALL Raw.....

I am Sure, Not ALL 1909-S-VDB Cents are NOT graded....
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I am Sure, Not ALL 1909-S-VDB Cents are NOT graded....

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I am Sure, Not ALL 1909-S-VDB Cents are NOT graded


i can say that I didnt slab mine for over 50yrs. the only reason I didnt was I wasnt planning on selling it. it graded XF40. however when you are talking a possible MS coin even at MS62RB the coin would be $2500
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I did not mean to cause a Stir, I was simply saying, Not all 1909-S VDB Coins out there are Slabbed, I am Sure of That, I own a few............
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I did not mean to cause a Stir, I was simply saying, Not all 1909-S VDB Coins out there are Slabbed


oh. sorry...i agree with you as a lot of collectors purchased these decades ago. PCGS was not even formed until 1986. seasoned collectors almost always used folders especially prior to TPG grading. I only have slabbed a handful of coins and the only reason was because they were key coin and I was looking to sell them at some point and to preserve them otherwise they would have stayed in my folder with all the others so I could see them all at one time. I am not one for slabbing coins. I think its a waste of $$. if you have an MS 09SVDB thats probably one I would consider it just to protect and preserve it.

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panzaldi, Its All Good, I appreciate Your in depth answer.

Yes, We Ole Schools Collectors are NOT fans of Slabbing Our Coins, Although some were purchased For The Coins.

Imagine how Many Old School Lincoln Cent Collectors Have " Unknown or Un Slabbed Coins ", as far as the TPG 's Population Reports go, Not Very Accurate or , Whats the Unknown Populations, ?.


Some Keys of the series Have people Slabbing their coins, I can see For the Genuine Knowledge.

Just not the Entire collection. To pay others to Judge, Grade My Coins, Not Necessary. I find Slabs Very Impersonal, Very Crude way to View and Store My Coins, IMO, Just Me...
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I find Slabs Very Impersonal, Very Crude way to View and Store My Coins, IMO, Just Me.


not just you...and you are right about population. coins that were either found or purchased raw and placed in folders will never be accounted for
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As far as population reports go, how many re-slabs might there be? Coins sent in over and over again for better grades or exchanged hands and broken out only to get sent back in. One day we may find that populations are way higher than actual supply.
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I wouldn't hesitate to pay $50 even with all the defects!
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Slabs may be impersonal and a head-shaking reality for us old timers, but if you plan on selling your better coins to an educated younger generation of collectors someday, you had better have them slabbed.
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Bruce,


The Topic is as Old as We are, and Older......


We collect What We Choose, I Do NOT believe slabs will be the Standard for Collectors, Certain People whom feel Less Capable or Less informed, will gravitate towards Them, Some rightfully so, I mean, To say, You believe slabs will bring the best Selling prices, NOT a Believer, I believe IF I have found the ability, 50 plus years ago, Others can Too.... People Choose To have Their coins Graded, I choose NOT to.

My Coins were collected in the Wild, It's a Very Fruitful world out there, Some will say, They feel More Confident with the Slabs, Whatever floats your boat....


The impersonal holders offer a Genuine feature that IMO, People have abandoned their own judgement, their own Sense of Raw Numismatic Forensic Beauty.

When We place that decision in Others hands, for a Fee, We gave up Something Special...... It's Not a Natural Feeling.

1986-PCGS Brought us a Premise of Grades, " Sight Unseen " Third Party Grading Company, IMO They have NOT done this....They are and Have a been, a Label Company Waiting for The Coins ...

Please do not mis-understand, Choose what You will to collect, Choose what You will on How to collect, Just NOT a Slab Fan. PS, Thinking a Coin MUST be in a Slab, and Curious as to WHY it is Not, My Exact Point.........
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