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Double date! Thoughts on this seemingly one of a kind large cent. ![1797-[double-Struck]-Large-Date-Cent](uploaded/soncerea/20240124_20240123_182229--1-.jpg) ![1797-[double-Struck]-Large-Date-Cent](uploaded/soncerea/20240124_20240123_181922.jpg) *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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 Photo of other side? Where did you get it? John1  |
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I've had it among many others for quite some time. Either estate sale, antique shop or one of the collections I have purchased. ![1797-[double-Struck]-Large-Date-Cent](uploaded/soncerea/20240124_20240123_181943.jpg) |
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Looks like the obverse was struck once, rotated and struck again. The second strike destroyed most of the first strike except for the date and lower part of Liberty. How it happened I have no clue, a mint error or post mint tooling?
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01/25/2024 09:14 am
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Would you spend the money to send in to be attributed?
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There's a guy named Tom Deck who collects and sells large cents. He knows a lot about large cents. I've bought a couple from him, good man. His web site has pics of his large cent collection and coins for sale. Maybe you could send him pics of this coin, he may have an opinion. If you send him pics and he responds, please let us know what he says. Or if you want, I can send him the pics. https://www.largecents.net/Edited by livingwater
01/25/2024 09:43 am
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If genuine, it's probably unique.
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Sure is a head-scratcher to me.
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For who I quoted about the reverse, there are no signs of doubling, however it is pretty worn. Here is reply from Tom ![1797-[double-Struck]-Large-Date-Cent](uploaded/soncerea/20240125_screenshot_20240125_173838_yahoo-mail.jpg) Edited by Soncerea
01/25/2024 6:42 pm
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Yeah, if it were mine I'd email pics to Tom Deck, get his opinion. If he thinks it's legit I'd send it to one of the grading companies like PCGS or NGC, you can look on their sites how to fill out the forms and mailing the coin to them, the costs, insure it, etc.
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01/25/2024 12:19 pm
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I just sent email to Tom with pics. Will let you know what response I receive.
Thanks again
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Is there any sign that the reverse is also double struck? I'm curious if it can happen to only one side. I suppose the die would have to rotate and not the coin?
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That is awesome! I am sure if the coin was higher grade, the reverse details would be of greater visibility. You can see the dentils above STATES are a little unusual and appear to extend into the legend, which makes sense with the orientation of the off-center. I personally collect mint error bust halves, but both early halves and early copper overlap and can be studied similarly. Neither series used retaining collars, they were both hubbed similarly, and both were struck on a steam press! Early copper errors tend to be slightly cheaper and more common. Makes sense considering it is a low denomination. Finding it in the wild makes your coin even cooler. Quote:
Is there any sign that the reverse is also double struck? I'm curious if it can happen to only one side. I suppose the die would have to rotate and not the coin? If any double struck coin only shows detail on one side, it is likely a first strike brockage. Two planchets were in the striking chamber at once, giving each coin a detailed side and an unstruck side. The coins were then inserted back into the striking chamber, placing detail on the unstruck side for the first time and double striking the other side. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Soncerea, glad Tom got back to you, I trust his opinion, very cool mint error. It's up to you but if mine I would definitely send it to one of the grading companies and ask they designate it as double struck or something like that, will be worth more and others will be reassured of it's authenticity if you ever want to sell it.
I said earlier it looked like the coin was double struck, the coin rotated, the second strike destroyed most of the first. But maybe it was struck, then as it was pushed out of the die chamber it rotated, did not get completely out, was struck again on the edge with the date and lower part of liberty. But I'm no expert, just speculating.
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01/26/2024 07:02 am
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