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this coins are valuables?
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These aren't "coins," in the sense of being legal tender - they're just silver rounds which have only the value of the metal they contain.
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Are these really silver? They look cast...
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Yes, it's really silver... Why?
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The details look worn and probably cast, which is the usual way to make counterfeits. But anyways, they're probably only worth metal.
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How do you know that they are silver?
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G'day, I'd be suspicious, because of the lack of definition in the strike.
I suggest:
first, check the weight. Ought to be 31.1 grams.
if the weight is OK, check for density. I don't know any easy way to do this, except to compare the dimensions of this item to a known silver coin of similar weight: if this item is a lot thicker, you'd know that it was made of something less dense than silver. Possible comparisons: Spanish Dollar, or any of its derivatives are about 29g.
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You could do a water displacement test, but to be accurate enough, you would either need to have like 10 of these coins, or really good measuring equipment.
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I'm with Peter on this one, weigh em :)
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If you have a scale KurtS put up a thread that shows how to determine density.
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this coins are valuables?


No they're not. They're worth about $12/each after confirmed as silver.
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I'm guessing they are not even silver. The texture doesn't look right, the color doesn't look right and they look very similar to some of the Chinese fakes.

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The strike looks like standard Chinese counterfeits and were not produced by any legitimate US bullion company. But as stated the only 100% way to tell is to weigh it
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But as stated the only 100% way to tell is to weigh it


If it weighs exactly 1 oz, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is silver.
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Can't remember who has the statistic about silver counterfeits. Someone stated that in extremely rare cases that larger silver coins actually had the correct weight. The counterfeiters were more interested in design and mass production instead of correctness of weight.

But yes a density test would be a swell addition to weighing it
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G'day, just to clarify: if the weight's wrong, then it's a dud.
Density was suggested as a secondary test, only if the weight seems correct.
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