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1787 Connecticut Draped Bust Left, Off Center And Rotated Reverse Die

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"Connies" are like Lay's potato chips - you can't have just one. (Or five, or ten..)

1787 Draped Bust Left Connecticut.

Struck off center, and the reverse die is rotated 90 degrees CCW.

I believe this is Miller 39.2-ee with "AUCTOBI" and "ET-LIR", but it's far enough off center that most of the legends and all of the date are off the planchet, so I'm going by punctuation - the "ee" reverse is unique. But if I'm wrong, let me know.

Rather underweight at 108 grains, but there's quite a lot of planchet issues. I thought it might be a Machin's issue at first but it's light even by those standards so I'm leaning towards it being metal loss.

I can't find any other examples of this variety which were struck both off-center and with a rotated reverse die, so I'm happy about this late night find, even if it's a bit rough. Photos were taken with full lighting.

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39.2-ee it is, which is currently listed as a low rarity 5 variety, 61-75 estimated to be known. The most interesting thing about this variety is the misspelling on the obverse and reverse, AUCTOBI on the obverse and LIR on the reverse. Many varieties have one or the other, but not both. The weight is not that unusual, many varieties, including this one, are known to average on the light side. Add wear to that and they can be quite low. I know what you mean about not having just one, I just bought my 75th variety!
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Not my field, but very interestng.
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This is only my 5th. I paid $20.50 for it, which seems pretty fair for the coin.
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Yep, that's a good price. I have that variety, I like that variety with the dual misspelling, I'll have to get mine out, thanks for sharing!
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Very cool and interesting variety. A steal for twenty bucks!
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Fascinating example of a topic in numismatics for which I have absolutely zero knowledge.

But I do indeed enjoy reading about you experts exchanging knowledge.

To me - the CCF discussion is interpreted like this:

Expert 1: I believe I have here a 1793 Vermont XQ-213 with "XRF-TAM" on the obverse indicative of die state 3 from the Machin mill

Expert 2: Close grasshopper - but that is actually XQ-209-B with the AR-32 reverse variety, Eagle standing left.

Great fun to learn from you experts - keep it up and maybe someday I'll understand a part of your specialized knowledge.
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Nickelsearcher, I'm like that when I see "Wow! That's a late stage DDO-fs37 with a rpm!" There are so many areas of numismatics it is mind boggling! Truly something for everyone.
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