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Hard To Identify1859 One Cent

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 Posted 02/22/2024  3:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bigal12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, here`s a hard to identify 1859 .Seems like any doubling could be wear but not sure. My closest guess is a PC59-103 but obverse seems off.
Any input appreciated . Sorry for the pics, hope clear enough.
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 Posted 02/22/2024  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly PC59-223 by the way the die crack starts at leaf 7

https://www.vickycents.com/rev-p10.html

Phil310 needs to chime in to verify
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 Posted 02/22/2024  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigal12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Narrow gap at vine 7 ,PC59-223 is wide I believe .Coin is worn around the edge so hard to get a read on any die cracks. The few I think may be there don`t match anything I can find, probably old damage .
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 Posted 02/22/2024  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without clearer photos, it's hard to tell exactly what the D/C at 7 is and is there one at 5 as well. The best part of the coin is the off-center Obverse REALLY evident. Someone didn't align the die first or a small planchet. It's a keeper
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 Posted 02/22/2024  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigal12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here`s a pic of leaf 5 and 7. As mentioned excessive wear around the edge compared to the rest .
I was so busy looking for die cracks etc. never even noticed the off set, thanks.
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 Posted 02/22/2024  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I don't see any D/C's on either 5 or 7.
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It`s a tuff one ,I keep chasing shadows or old damage it seems. Thought PC59-103 because such a close match on leaf 9 stem, no other indicators I can see for that one. Heavy die clash along top of the head but can`t find a match.
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if you look at leaf 7 on the bottom photo of the first 3 you can faintly see the die crack
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Thanks, I see it. Another possible under the right light at leaf 12 as well but can`t find either on the D/C list . You must have a good screen .
Believe me when I say not much different in hand under the loupe due to the edge wear .
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 Posted 02/23/2024  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigal12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think may have identified it. PC59-20 with the E10 reverse at a later state. I thought the edge wear was different than usually seeing but after reading seems it`s die wear, quite different than usual usage wear for sure. Lots to learn.
Any confirmation before I label and wrap it up appreciated.
Thanks
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 Posted 02/23/2024  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, your coin is PC59-20. The E10 reverse was one of the longest used reverse dies for the 1859's and in the later states there were a lot of weakened areas because of Die Deterioration. Even the stem to leaf 9 looks different in the early and late states. Good work identifying that one!
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 Posted 02/23/2024  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigal12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you . Two of those now ,the first is an early state so very different looking coin .
Also thanks to all responders .
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