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ID Help On Byzantine Ae Maybe Imitation?

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Got this one in a lot of mostly Roman coins. Tried searching for an attribution but couldn't find an obvious match. The lettering in exergue on the reverse doesn't match any of the common Byzantine mints and I couldn't find a match when going through Foss's Arab-Byzantine catalog.

Could use a hand with this one, thanks in advance!

28.5mm
10.59g

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 Posted 02/24/2024  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could be Heraclius with Heraclius Constantine, not certain.
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Could be Heraclius with Heraclius Constantine, not certain.


That looks pretty good. Thessalonica mint. I found this one with a matching year: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11204459
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The mintmark (and, to an extent, the regnal year) look like gibberish. Personally, I would catalog this as a pseudo-Byzantine, unknown mint.
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Thanks everyone for the help! Definitely thinking it's pseudo-byzantine given much of the reverse lettering is nonsense, but it's also definitely imitating Heraclius with Heraclius Constantine.
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If you rotate either side 90° counter-clockwise, I think you will find it's an overstrike. The "gibberish" in the exergue becomes a rather clear date. The arc behind the shoulder of the smaller obverse figure is actually the diadem of a large facing bust, perhaps Maurice Tiberius. "Pseudo-Byzantine", by the way, is a specific term referring to to a documented class of Arab imitations.
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If you rotate either side 90° counter-clockwise, I think you will find it's an overstrike. The "gibberish" in the exergue becomes a rather clear date.


Oh wow you're totally right. It's such a perfect 90° rotation that it blends in astonishingly well.

Greatly appreciate the help!
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If you rotate either side 90° counter-clockwise, I think you will find it's an overstrike. The "gibberish" in the exergue becomes a rather clear date. The arc behind the shoulder of the smaller obverse figure is actually the diadem of a large facing bust, perhaps Maurice Tiberius. "Pseudo-Byzantine", by the way, is a specific term referring to to a documented class of Arab imitations.


Superb sleuthing, well done!
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