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1852 D No Motto Liberty Head Half Eagle

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I'm trying to determine whether it would be worth having this coin graded prior to sale and if so, which grading company I should use.

This coin has been passed down through the family for generations. For what it's worth, the story goes that one of my Mom's ancestors had it sewn into his confederate uniform coat.

A friend told me that most of the ones from this mint were "weakly struck" in this era and this one had more definition making it more valuable.

Please let me know what you'd recommend.

Thanks!

Joe
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Definitely certification by NGC, PCGS or ANACS if you want "max" money to help erase doubts of authenticity. Auction by Great Collections will give the coin the promotion it deserves when it comes time to sell.

Looks solid with AU details to me.

If at all possible keep the coin as long as long as you can as it's been part of your Family for generations. Once it's gone the stories and history it had will fade over time.

Wonderful coin! Congrats and good luck whatever you decide!
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Thanks for the welcome and the info. I'm much more involved with woodworking forums and appreciate your support of a numismatic newby.

For the record, I'm selling this to help out my elderly mother. I never had children so I'm the last generation.
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No cousins? Not keeping it in the family with a story like that makes me feel sad! I agree with AU Details (cleaned) a probable grade and ANACS, NGC or PCGS slabbing would help the sale. ANACS would be cheapest.
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"I agree with AU Details (cleaned) a probable grade..."

My understanding was that you should never clean coins as it reduces the value. Is this not the case anymore or not apply to gold coins?

If so, should I have the coin professionally cleaned before grading or is it something I can do myself?

I would consider doing it chemically or through an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner but definitely don't want to add any scratches.
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Don't clean it. I meant that it would get a "Details" grade because it looks like it was previously cleaned. "Details" is what the graders use to indicate a problem, such as cleaned, scratched, damaged, graffiti, etc. I don't know why they don't just say Problems instead of Details.

You can request the TPG conservation service along with the grading. I'm not sure what they do when conserving a coin but it won't damage it. I don't know if this coin would benefit from it or if it's worth it.
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You can also choose to consign a coin to an auction house and they'll send the coin into grading for you. Instead of a three month turnaround for the standard consumer, they can get it done in a couple of weeks maximum. Probably the best option considering there would be a lot of hustle in selling and a dealer would pay the low end of auction potential. PCGS or NGC would work, do not use ANACS or ICG for this coin.

I think that coin grades AU Details Cleaned, and carries a huge premium for a conditionally challenging issue. I would guess this would bring $2,000-$4,000 at auction.
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AU details, cleaned and well worth getting slabbed.
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It's interesting that the coin has been cleaned at some point.

My Mom said it's been in a safe deposit box for 50 years since it came through an estate.

It was valued at that time by World Wide Coin Investments Ltd at $160.

My understanding from the folks at Great Collections is that is worth about half ($1500) of what it would bring uncleaned.

Bummer!
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1500 $ sounds way too cheap in my 2-cent opinion.
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This is a great looking coin. I would be interested in purchasing this. PM me if you would like to discuss an offer. Good luck!
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Would probably make AU details. Obviously cleaned with hairline scratches on both sides. Similar cleaned examples have sold in the $1500 - $3000 range over the last 9 years on Heritage.

I wonder if the value as a family heirloom outweighs its monetary value. Maybe you could buy it yourself.
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