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1992 Reverse Varieties

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 Posted 04/16/2009  6:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Chadwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
After searching through a couple of boxes of pennies, I've found a 1992 with a revers that looks odd. Its clearly not the wide-am that I normaly see. After looking around at some other sites dedicated to cents, I've learned that the mint has used many different reverses over the years.

When I get home later tonight I'll post photos of this coins reverse. I don't believe this is a 1992 close-am, however, its clearly not the normal variety for the year.

Photos coming!
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 Posted 04/17/2009  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Chadwick:





Please!


Thanks!
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 Posted 04/17/2009  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Chadwick,

Welcome. Unless you have found something that remains unreported to date, I can basically explain what you have...

There are a few things that can affect the deisgn on a coin, which is the exact opposite of the same design on the die, which gets there by a process called 'hubbing'. This is where a positive reduction of the design is pressed into the die to create a negative impression (which turns positive again on the coin).

Now, if a hubbing isn't very sharp or very complete, it can cause the lowest parts of the relief of the coin to go missing or be very weak, making the letters (which are beveled) appear thinner and spaced apart a little more. This is referred to as a 'weakly hubbed die' and it happens frequently.

Another thing that happens frequently is 'die wear' - this is the effect on the die of minting a hundred thousand or more coins where the die actually starts to chip away and wear down. It sort-of pancakes outward, loses corners, definition. This can cause a design to look odd as well.

The place I'm going here is that there have only been two different designs used on cent dies since 1989, One has spacing between the A and M of AMERICA, and the other has these two letters touching or nearly touching, depending on the strength of the hubbing and the age of the die at the point that it strikes the coin. Depending on these factors as well as the actual strike on the coin, the design can take on slightly different appearances when comparing two coins of the same year.
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 Posted 04/17/2009  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chadwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent explaination of what I may have. I appologize for not getting the photos up last night as I said I would. Work ran late, and I left the coins at my desk in my haste to get home.

I will post the photos tonight! And this may become a nice example of Hubbing as explained by Coppercoins above.
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 Posted 04/18/2009  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chadwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok. I've once again left my coins at work............sorry. Take in mind that my work is very demanding, and I'm forgetful. I will, eventually, post these pics. In the meantime, I apologize for my absentmindedness. They are coming. Not that there is anything ground breaking about them anyways. "Coppercoins" has already explained these coins without seeing them. Which is a testament to the experience and knowledge this member represents. My photos are only a follow up on his explanations. Still, I have promised photos, and they will come. Just not this weekend. My apologies again. Its my fault for being absent minded. I will post the photos after the weekend when I can get back to the office to recover the coins. I would, if they were something ground breaking, make an effort to recover them sooner. However, in this instance, I don't see the effort worth the trouble. These are "interesting" coins at best, valuable "noteworthy" at the very least. What I mean to say is, that these coins are not very special. Just interesting, and mostly interesting to me, which means nothing from a professional/serious collectors point of view.

Photos coming soon......
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