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That's wonderful, your choice, but contributes nothing to the question at hand.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 04/01/2024 11:10 am
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Pillar of the Community
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As kbbpll noted: Quote: Tough business to break into, especially when your browser stops you from going there. No, I would not sent any of my coins there, partially due to browser (firefox) warning. "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead" And yes, I am "paranoid" when it comes to my computer and coins.
Edited by Sharks 04/01/2024 1:35 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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When this thread started, I tried the link as well and my security told me not to go there as well, that it was a dangerous, unsecure site.
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As an IT worker, I will take the paranoid user over the "click happy" one ten out of ten times.  That being said, we need to focus on the topic. If you are unwilling to visit the site to answer the OP, so be it; but there is no need to comment further.
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Forum Dad
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Quote: don't agree with the "no big deal" aspect. I've seen entire offices infected because someone who wasn't "paranoid" clicked on a link in a random email. The point of SSL is that it's secure. If it's supposed to be secure and it isn't, I'm not going there, period. Nothing will change my mind about this. Well, You have no idea what you're talking about. All an SSL does is stop someone from eavesdropping on your connection. It has nothing to do with protecting a site from being infected. It does not protect from hacking at all or have anything to do with your clicking an email. SSL means nothing to anyone trying to infect a site. Nothing. A site with an SSL will infect you just as quick as one without. It offers zero protection from that.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you bobby. I am neither click happy, nor paranoid. I contacted them and made them aware of the problem, perhaps they'll remedy the issue soon, others will look and we'll be able to discuss what appears to be a new Canadian TPG service. I have not seen any of their coins for sale anywhere, if you look at their site it seems appropriate for today especially.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Never heard of them, a search on the phone number is that it is a cell phone in the Edmonton area. Maybe one of the ENS members here (Scissel) can comment? The contact email contained a name, Tony Wait. Upon searching that name with 'Edmonton', it appears to be the guy who designed the Canadian Coin News Covid medals: https://canadiancoinnews.com/covid-...om-pandemic/If it is the same guy, then that person is 60 years old, but grading coins since 1974 (at the age of 10?). The excessive capitalization in the website is annoying, I looked at the sample slabs, and there are some weird capitalizations in the labels. VicTory and ToMBaC, as examples. There are also some pretty lofty grades in the samples. $25 per coin, with no bulk rates quoted. Their website allows us to ask questions, I am tempted to ask if they grade errors. The devil in me would also want to send a cameltoe $2 coin to see if they catch it. Frankly, depending on exchange rate, I am at about CAN$28 to $30 per coin with large submissions to PCGS, and I get True View professional photos, coin certification lookup, online apps, and registry sets. ICCS bulk submission rate is $10 per coin, and that is hard to beat when selling coins to Canadian collectors. I would welcome some serious competition in Canada, but I am not sure if our collector base could sustain another competitive grading company.
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Pillar of the Community
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To answer OP's question, no, I wouldn't send any of my coins off to them to be a guinea pig.
I give him/them props for the effort, but no mention of insurance for submissions while at their location, or an actual Policy in general for that matter, is a big red flag for me IMO.
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Pillar of the Community
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Their photos are very blurry, quite amateurish. The three Canadian coins they show slabbed would each be the single finest known if we are to believe the grades assigned. What are the odds they would cross at PCGS ? Likely zero. Most likely they are grossly overgraded, and that's not "looking out for the collector" which they claim as their mandate. .
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: You have no idea what you're talking about. Gosh Bobby, that's a bit insulting to someone who spent 30 years in IT as a programmer and database administrator, developer and architect. My point was not that SSL is going to prevent you from getting a virus. My point was that if they can't make a "trusted connection" with their customers on their website, I'm not going to trust them with my coins either.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: If you are unwilling to visit the site to answer the OP, so be it; but there is no need to comment further. If you are unwilling (after warning) to visit the site, I believe, answers the question asked by the OP (Would You Send Your Canadian Coins To This Guy ?) I was under the impression that comments were encouraged, in particular if they were to clarify ones point of view.
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Quote: I was under the impression that comments were encouraged, in particular if they were to clarify ones point of view. Comments are encouraged for the OP's question, which is about coins, not information technology. The problem is the thread started to focus on the latter.
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Pillar of the Community
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It appears they have dealt with their security problems. Now everyone can have a look and comment.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Thank you for the update. 
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