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"Dangerous" British Coins/Return To Royal Mint

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I bought the 2024 UK Base metal Proof Set. Nice coins, but they got out of their nests in the holder so I decided to return. Shipped by USPS only to have it returned with the notice that I was shipping dangerous/prohibited items. Any ideas about why this might be?

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 Posted 04/08/2024  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just found this on the USPS manual among items not to be shipped to the UK.
"Coins; platinum, gold, or silver (manufactured or not); precious stones; jewels; and other valuable articles."
How is this possible? Coins can't be shipped to UK?

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How strange, captainmandrake - I wonder why.
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The British post office does not outright forbid sending cash in the mail - given the number of people that still do this over there, it would probably be a futile gesture - but they do strongly suggest that people not do that. The wording against shipping coins is stronger, specifically against putting coins in envelopes, because that jams up the envelope sorting machines.

USPS may be interpreting this request as an outright ban on shipping coins within Britain, and therefore imposes their own ban on shipping coins into Britain.

Just a guess.
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 Posted 04/09/2024  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just read about the ways people get around this, by calling coins tokens or numismatic medals, etc. They're all in a display box so they couldn't jam machines. I guess I know now I can't ship items back to The Royal Mint. It also says no platinum or silver can be mailed there, which is also interesting so no returns really of almost anything I get from The Royal Mint.
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 Posted 04/09/2024  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is disappointing. Certainly something for Americans to consider before making a purchase from The Royal Mint.
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Seems that USPS does not like description of items being coins on the customs form for packages going from the USA to the UK.

Of course this has me wondering how the US Mint says they can ship to the UK and also how The Royal Mint can sent coins to the USA.

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Of course this has me wondering how the US Mint says they can ship to the UK and also how The Royal Mint can sent coins to the USA.
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Seems that USPS does not like description of items being coins on the customs form

I would label them "numismatic items".
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"Dangerous Goods/Contents Prohibited" could mean either "Dangerous Goods" OR "Contents Prohibited".
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 Posted 04/09/2024  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that is really strange.
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yep, wording is everything these days. Can't say this, can't say that anymore. G forbid we offend anyone..
Just label the customs forms as numismatic items and you should be fine - for all they know it could be books or albums...
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When I post coins from the UK to other countries, I put medallions on the customs form and never had an issue.
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Yes - "medallions" works. I usually use "old tokens", which is not technically a lie in most cases as the coins have been de-monetised and so are really only tokens now.
The daft thing is the rules were made to stop money laundering and smuggling but are now being interpreted to prevent honest and lawful trading.
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I have received the same kind of denial, about sending coins to the USA.
It appears that all the postal services and package delivery companies are moving to refuse to handle coins or precious metals. Telling people to use some specialized services.
Becoming harder to ship internationally. Soon only dealers will be able to.
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The cynic in me tells me they want you to spend more money on a bespoke postal service which is going to make them more money. I've never had this trouble in Britain.
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