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 Posted 04/09/2024  9:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eye88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
If you find a red penny that has absolutely no scratches on it and the luster is still there does that guarantee it will get ms70 if it still looks brand new? And how do Penny's from the 90's and sometimes 80's survive for so long in circulation with very little damage to them because do coin rolls alot and constantly come across nice looking Penny's with hardly any scratches from years ago but the shield Penny's seem to be scratched up and damaged very quickly
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The answer to your first question is no, an apparently scratch-free penny is not a guaranteed ms70.

Now you may think the pennies you find from the 80s and 90s are scratch-free, but if you were to examine them with a loupe or a microscope you would see small scratches and other things. They might just have spent a lot of time in cash registers which is why they look uncirculated.

The shield pennies haven't gotten fifteen years of wear on them yet, so scratches would show up more clearly.
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Eye appeal is just a small part of grading. A 70 grade or and numeral grade is a technical grade. Here is a link to learn grading: https://www.pcgs.com/photograde/
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in order to discuss you coin you need to post both sides here. large enough to see all the details and do not use overhead light as it causes glare obscuring the surfaces.

fyi the chance of finding an MS68 or higher coin in circulation is nil
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MS-70 is unobtainium for business cents!
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does that guarantee it will get ms70

Stop right there. There are no guarantees in this hobby.
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If you find a red penny that has absolutely no scratches on it and the luster is still there does that guarantee it will get ms70 if it still looks brand new? And how do Penny's from the 90's and sometimes 80's survive for so long in circulation with very little damage to them because do coin rolls alot and constantly come across nice looking Penny's with hardly any scratches from years ago but the shield Penny's seem to be scratched up and damaged very quickly


No, cents you get uncirculated direct from the mint such as in rolls (or bags or mint sets) are going to be of general higher condition in mint state, but rarely are above the MS65-66 range. You can see for yourself here in the population report (census of how many are graded at each grade) https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail/lin...1959-date/47
This is the reason that some rare high grade coins can value so high as they are not found often. They also have values for graded coins at each grade such as here you can browse https://www.pcgs.com/prices

Circulated coins are rarely found in those better grades. Many who search circulated coins are looking for varieties or errors such as found in a book like strike it rich with pocket change, as its getting infrequent to find older coins that may have value on their own. Modern coins after 1982 are more zinc and so if they get scratched the zinc core is exposed and then starts causing white substance to form around the exposure, and if worn away from further circulation can eat away further at the coin. Those 1982 and newer coins arent quite as durable like the older coins.


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