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1960 D 5c Nickel Find

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 Posted 04/16/2024  6:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shayez to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Look what I found
1960-D DDO-001, 1-O-VIII
Can anyone explain why pcgs / ngc don't list it
Thank you
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You would need to get us a nice closeup of the 6, that is the only place there is doubling on this particular variety that you call out.
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Sorry can't you see it on the Y and at the left of T
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That looks like Machine Doubling and also deterioration. That is not where the doubling is on the DDO-001, it's on the 6.

ADDED: I apologize, most of what you are seeing is engraving. Scroll down to the ODV-015, there is no premium for this, common.

LINK http://varietyvista.com/04b%20JN%20...arieties.htm
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Read what I just sent you in the last post.
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Learned something new again. Thank you -makecents-.
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Learned something new again. Thank you -makecents-.
Yeah, the grey matter didn't kick in until I had already posted about the MD, (I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes), but I think there is MD too.
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shayez,
Not a DDO. Also,please no photos of monitor screens.Use a memory card in your scope...thank you.
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I'm fascinated by that 2006 nickel.

For a 2006 Nickel, it appears to be in great shape. The building on the Reverse is worn down looking though.

What about on the Obverse around Thomas Jefferson's head?
Is that Machine Doubling?

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Can anyone explain why pcgs / ngc don't list it

I think from your saying this you need to understand a lot more about grading companies or you are setting yourself up to lose a lot of money.

The first time you send in a coin it is going to cost you around 200.00 b/c they make you pay a membership fee. And you will not get back a grade on the slab that is going to bring you a lot of money.

Coin dealers have to send in more coins that you and I will ever own before they can get one of those money-making-level grades. That is why those slabs are so expensive.

The companies use nothing scientific to assign a grade, and so they can put any grade they wish on a slab. The less of the really expensive grades they had out, the higher prices people pay for them. The higher the prices go, the more people they get seeing the money and willing to pay the 200.00 hoping that they also will get rich.

And yes, grading companies do keep track of the grades they assign. Collectors can find that info, for example, on the PCSG website.

Grading companies are a business and use typical business plans to make money for their shareholders.
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The Mint did a lot of tinkering with the obverse and reverse designs during that era. I took a quick look through the PCGS catalog for 1960-D nickels. All of them show the re-engraving of the T. However, I only found one that strongly showed the unusual phenomenon on the Y.

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/45880520

(Edit: interestingly, that example on PCGS also has a split left serif on the L and a strange little angle to the top. That does not seem to appear on other 1960-D, nor 1957 or 1961 nickels in the picture catalog. Would be interested to know if the OP nickel also has a split on the L.)

Most likely Machine Doubling or some kind of die issue. In answer to your question about attributing doubled dies, the big grading companies focus on the major varieties worth significant money. Those are mostly represented by the Cherrypicker's Guide varieties—and the TPGs do not attribute all of the CPG entries. Collector's resources like Variety Vista, Wexler's guide, and CONECA list many, many moderate and minor doubled dies. The grading company ANACS will attribute many of the minor varieties found in those catalogs.

If you find other evidence of a minor DDO on this coin, then the guy to send it to is Brian Ribar of Brian's Variety Coins. He maintains the Wexler catalog for nickel DDO / DDR and has written books on nickels. His examination fee is a very reasonable $5 per coin plus postage and insurance—although if you are in Israel, P+I might be a lot. Sending to a TPG will just waste a good sum of money, and they will not thoroughly investigate what you see on the coin.
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We need a picture of the 6. Makecents coming in with the receipts as usual.
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