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New Member
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Looks like trapped gas making a linear trail gas bubble,a plating issue. John1 
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Looks like a linear plating bubble to me too. @gez, sometimes these can be flattened by depressing them with the tip of a wooden toothpick.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Valued Member
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I have few pretty much just like this, and the lines are hard, I cannot flatten them at all. I just assumed it's some odd die clash/plating issues?  
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Pillar of the Community
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Gezus and Svant, both of your coins have roller lines due to contaminates that were on the blanks, long before they were plated. If you look, the obverse and reverse lines match in direction. Sometimes they are just gas and will depress and sometimes they are solid, where the contamination has solidified. Very common on copper plated zinc coins.
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yep, Makecents nailed it - these are roller lines.
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-makecents-, Would you please post a link that explains this issue so I can read up on it? Thanks. John1 
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New Member
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Thanks all. I read about the roller lines on the subject with woodys. I suspected plating issues and tried to push down the area with a tooth pick no movement. But makes sense if it was there before being struck! I appreciate all the feed back.
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Quote: -makecents-, Would you please post a link that explains this issue so I can read up on it? Thanks. John1 It's odd that it is not shown or spelled out well but this is the best link for it and does not show a pic on a plated coin but does mention on plated coins. Here is the part mentioned and then a link to the full explanation. The roller lines were just explained to me by one of my "overlords", Will Brooks, which makes complete sense, especially when you look at the directional consistancies. LINK https://www.error-ref.com/subsurface-corrosion/Subsurface Corrosion 
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Valued Member
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You think these are also "rolling lines"? 
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: You think these are also "rolling lines"? Cannot tell from the pic, too small and you need to have the reverse pic with it, to compare directional consistancies.
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There is nothing on reverse. And the first photo I posted - n9t all of the coins have those lines on the both sides, I definitely have seen (maybe even still have some around) pennies with those lines only on O or R.
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Is this pic better? 
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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree with -makecents-.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Svant, better but still cannot tell what you have there. If it's the snake like lines in front of the face of Abe, not roller lines. They will be straight and somewhat consistent and typically will be on the reverse too. Maybe still some sort of plating issues though. You should start a new thread and have larger, clear pics.
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Alright then, John1, I was kind of right.  I reached out to Will Brooks and he sent me some pics of his write up of this in CONECA's Errorscope (July/August of 2020). They are channels that are already in the stock and therefore on the planchets before ever plated and struck, sometimes exacerbated by grease. Here is the writeup on it, hope it can be read, kind of small. I remembered this but just slightly out of context. Nice pics from Ray Parkhust,(mpsrpms) on here. Pics from Vivien Bullard and much input on this study, (a super sharp friend from a different site). Much input towards the study from Cliff Reuter, also a very sharp individual, (Petespockets55) on here and even a pic from me, that I had forgotten about.  And of course, our very own Mike Diamond. Good artical, worth the read.   
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