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Silver Australian Penny And Halfpenny

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These two coins look like silver to me. That's why I have compared them to normal coins of that vintage. Even the metal inside the pierced holes for the key chain looks silver, not copper. Were there any silver coins made for these years and denominations?
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 Posted 04/23/2024  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SallyG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert but the 'silver' coins don't even look to be the same size as the original coins. Even if they were genuine issues, putting holes in them would be a terrible travesty. Just a nice novelty I think.
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Good point, I hadn't noticed the difference in size. In that case, somebody went to a lot of trouble for a novelty coin. I did photograph them together as is - no photoshopping.
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Very interesting. My first guess was going to be plating, until the size difference was mentioned.
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The coins are THE SAME SIZE. The original photos above were a bit confusing comparing a penny and a halfpenny side by side. I see the error now. These are more photos comparing each corn side by side. You can see both coins are the same size as ordinary pennies and halfpennies. The pennies are also the same thickness.
So the question again begs answering - Were there any silver coins made for these years and denominations? Or did someone silver plate them?
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They're just normal bronze coins that have been plated, by whomever it was that turned them into tourist keychains. Go into just about any "aussie souvenirs" tourist trap and you will find as many of these as you wish to buy. You can get them in brass/gilt plating too.

The silver plating is probably nickel, since that's the cheapest and easiest way to make bronze things look silvery. Check and see if the coins are weakly attracted to a magnet. As for "it's silver inside the hole too", that just means the holes were drilled first, then the holed coins were plated. Simples.
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Thanks. Your help is most appreciated. My question has now been answered.
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Wow....on line images can be very misleading.
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There were no silver pennies or halfpennies minted.
Full stop.
The closest size predecimal Australian coins minted were the Florin and Shilling. These WERE silver.
Plating or painting the pennies and halfpennies was common for decorative purposes, and back in that time, you could STILL spend them like that.
Today, these are the kind of coin I'd discard for melting in a heartbeat.
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...and back in that time, you could STILL spend them like that.

Well, actually, plating a coin to make it resemble a coin of higher value was (and still is) against anti-counterfeit laws. If you silver-plate a halfpenny, you end up with a coin that kind-of resembles a shilling, and a plated penny resembles a florin. I know, the sizes are wrong, the edges are wrong, and the reverse designs are wrong, but it still happened so it was more than a theoretical problem. So if this kind of plating had been done prior to 1965, the coins would technically have been counterfeits and thus unable to be spent.

You could copper-plate a shilling or florin, and that would be OK, since that's a value downgrade, not an upgrade. But silver-plating a copper coin, or gold-plating a copper or silver coin, was illegal.

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...I'd discard for melting in a heartbeat.

Not even the melters would really want it, as the presence of the plating adds extra complication to the refining process. Probably best to just use it as a keychain, until they break.
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I have a braclet of Australian coins- novelty lost all their value due to holes drilled to hold them together
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