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I found this in the parking lot where I work. I know nothing about coins. I am not even sure that it is a coin. But it sure is interesting.
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A pic would help :) I bet I can id it for you in less than a minute.

And oh right,
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8 and a half hours and counting.
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Doesn't count! I just woke up!

Anyways, it's a standard silver coin (7m and 2c is one "liang" or tael) weighing around 40gr. This would be a precursor to the silver dollar used in China. It should have .78oz of silver, which is the same as an American silver dollar.

You can see it's minted in Guangdong Province (Kwangtung was its old Englicized name)

and... it was minted during the reign of this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxu_Emperor

So, look at this, you are either extremely luck to find this coin in this condition (it's worth at least $200) or that it's a fake. The color already doesn't look like silver. But, I haven't really seen a lot of fakes from Canton/Guangdong, so you might want to check if it's real. You can try tapping it with another coin while having it suspending it on the tip of your finger. If it rings, then it's silver. If it doesn't, then it's a fake. Anyways, fakes don't come cheap either.
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Actually, 7 mace and 2 candareens is the weight of a silver dollar, weighing around 27 grams; the tael was slightly heavier.

Either way, this one's a fake. Or rather, a fantasy - I haven't spotted anything with that design in the coin catalogues, or on zeno.ru.

These things are shipped over by the containerload from China. They come in all sorts of designs, from believable copies of fake coins to blatantly hilarious fakes. They're typically sold in street markets for $2 to $3 each. Needless to say, it's not going to be made of silver.

I strongly suspect that there's either a weekend flea market in the carpark, or someone else found out it was fake, and threw it away.
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oh... I always thought the silver dollar was just a modern replacement for the tael. Thanks for telling me that!

And by the way Jack, a real one should have 4 Manchu words in the middle of the 4 Chinese characters.
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Hi guys. I put the coin on the tip of my finger and tapped it with another coin as David suggested and it rang with a high pitch. Does this mean anything?
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The ringing sound that you get when you tap the coin means that it is not a cast counterfeit. Cast coins make a dull sound when tapped.

This appears to be a die-struck fantasy coin. The high ring suggests to me that it could have a steel core. Does it stick to a magnet?
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Thanks Buzzard I didn't think of that. I'll try it right now. Yes, it did stick to a magnet. Well guess that settles that. Thanks guys.
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